well i did a drag race with a 2000 model BMW 528 and as you would expect, yes the BMW won. but i was surpised from the short distance between my car and the BMW throught the race. he had an automatic/sequential transmission and i had manual. the distance between both car from the begining of the race till the end was around 2-3 meters in distance.

but still, how can i make my car faster? i recently posted a thread on how to make my car faster and make the 0-60 performace better. I want the 0-60 to drop from 10.5 secs to 8-8.5 secs. I am sure that is possible because i have seen many people turbocharge their cars and getting a better peformance. i mean everyone knows the EVO VIII. its a 2.0L turbocharged with 400bhp and does 0-60 in 3.5 secs. i dont see how it is impossible for my car to perform better with more horsepower and torque added to the car.

What do you think guys???? possible OR impossible

possible if you spend many thousands of pounds on it (for a turbo and associated parts & work).
it would be cheaper and much better to just buy an evo, or a scooby

Instead of trying to make your car faster, why not make his slower?


Sabotage, subterfuge.. it's cheaper

To be honest there's always going to be someone out there with a car bigger and faster than yours. But on the other hand I've always been interested in just how far you an modify a particular engine to see what power can be pulled from it. So if you have the money and want to do it, go for it

Yes, i agree with all of you in adding a turbo, but i have one problem.
I like the sound of my engine when on neutral/not moving to be low and soft like now. and a powerful sound when accelerating. i am afraid that if i add a turbo my engine might sound like a washing machine while its stopped or on neutral.

shouldnt sound any different, at idle the turbo wont really make any noise because it is only spinning slowly and not producing any boost.

if you do go for a turbo, get a small one, it will have less lag. very important for a drag race. you could probably weld the turbo from a daihatsu charade onto the exhaust manifold easily enough. the V04-trim IHI RHB32 turbocharger was one of the smallest in the world, and it made 7 psi, so no intercooling was required. it would be an easy mod to do DIY if you're handly with a welder, and it would fit in the engine bay easily. you'd need to drop the compression ratio (hopefully just mod piston faces).

thats the cheapest and easiest way to do it that i can think of, god only knows what sort of gains you'd get, but if you got the compression ratio right, and had it running at 7psi, you'd get good gains.

thing is, what do you do about fueling? i doubt the standard injection system can handle it, even with a rechipped ecu (not sure tho?) so maybe you'd be better off using the original carb from the daihatsu with a slightly bigger jet to handle the increase in air intake rate. i think this is the tricky part, putting it all together is all well and good, but without the right fueling it'll all go wrong.

you really need professional advice or it'll be a waste of money. i've seen DIY turbos go very wrong very quickly (like a turbo 1.1 fiesta that went pop lol )

The 1.6 100BHP model can be increased to around 120BHP by installing a Dastek chip, having it customly remapped, and obviously a full exhaust system and CDA filter. It will make it much faster than the 1.8. 0-60 will be around 8-9secs. If you go on www.fiatboo.co.uk / forums and give a shout for Ash G he'll explain more about what he's done.

Also the 1.2 can be upped from 80BHP to 115BHP. But this is with serious head modifications and indeed exceeds the manufacturers engine restraints. Due to so much power, the driveshafts snap and gearboxs go very quickly. If interested about this, again go on the above forum and ask for Princess Z and she'll let you know what she had done.

NEVER NEVER turbo a non turbo car. The engine was never made for the increase in boost and will soon see you ripping the car to pieces. Engine will blow definately. Your better off with the piggy back ecu's, fast road cams, full exhaust systems, CDA air filter etc.

The Fiat Bravo 1.9 JTD can actually produce around 200BHP after a custom remap, but the clutch defiately does not handle the extra power also the fly wheel isn't capable of withstanding so much torque, same with the driveshafts. It would need serious modifications for it to be acceptable and in my opinion, not worth doing at all as we are taking custom parts and would easily cost more than the price of the car. However you can get the JTD remapped to 170BHP, but you'll need a new racing organic clutch. Yes, bye bye HGT. But.........

The 155 20V HGT can also be modded with fast road cams, piggy back ECU, exhaust system etc. Again on the Forum above ask for Nico, his HGT is pushing around 195BHP successfully.

As you can see non of the above includes adding Turbo's.

Theres plenty of people out there adding turbos to non turbo cars with no problems, you just can't run too much boost (as jug said).

You can say it wasn't built for it, but what was it built for, all the other things you mention ? Oh yeah running at stock.

So adding a Turbo costing lots of money etc, all for a little gain, with having to run it at small boost. Not worth it if you ask me.

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Not worth it if you ask me.

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Thats better, thats your opinion. What you said before appeared to be a fact when it was a fiction.

JoskeJTD said:

NEVER NEVER turbo a non turbo car. The engine was never made for the increase in boost and will soon see you ripping the car to pieces. Engine will blow definately. Your better off with the piggy back ecu's, fast road cams, full exhaust systems, CDA air filter etc.

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i agree completely, but everytime i say it on this forum all the cinq turbo kids start moaning. (and talking about the fact that they havent gone pop yet)

to be fair it doesnt matter what you do to increase power, if you go too far the engine will die (and the gearbox etc.)

its always better to buy a faster car (and cheaper)

cinq turbo kids

^^^ Hey Cinq Kids you should Vist the Co. Durham area where all these nuts keep trying to do it . Always seeing them poor little things by the side of the road all dead and ready to be taking away.

Actualy saw 2 of these racing a 2 mile strip of road they made it 400meters at the most and it was bye bye cinq

my girlfriend's sister has a cinq sporting that i've drove loads of times (called chico), its fun around the town, but i dont think they feel save at 60-70mph so i cant imagine what it must be like at 100+mph. stick a turbo on a 1242cc engine, bung it in a cinq, add a young driver, and you have a fatal accident waiting to happen. it must be a great way to learn about the mechanics of cars, and an affordable route to a turbo, but its not what i'd call a safe option. and despite the claims, i'd be very surprised if a cinq turbo could actually beat my car when a 1.4 punto turbo cant. but to each his own.