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Further to this thread: https://www.fiatforum.com/bravo-styling/112305-coupe-20vt-alloys-bravo.html. I got on to fitting the Coupe Alloys this weekend to the Bravo.
The short story is the standard rims on the Bravo are in okay condition, but the front tyres were "on the limit". So rather than buying two new front tyres, I thought "why not fit the Coupe Alloys", which have Pirelli P Zero 205/50 r16 on. And all are in virtually brand new condition. With ample tread on all 4 wheels.
The 1st issue I found last week, were the standard Bravo Alloy bolts weren't long enough for the Coupe rims. You could turn them one turn on their thread, but clearly that's not enough to hold wheels on safely. Luckily I had a complete set of Coupe bolts at another location. So I got those on Thursday, and they now physically fit.
The 2nd issue I was concerned about was the rolling radius, and actually being able to physicallyfit the Coupe Wheel & Tyre combo in the arches of the Bravo, and what effect that may have on the speedo reading.
Physically they fit with no rubbing at all. Full lock right, and they're fine. Full lock left, and I can just hear the tyre rubbing on the plastic arch lining. Which can be easily pushed out of the way.
Normal travelling, the Bravo feels more planted. Grip is considerably improved. Acceleration is not quite as good. But then it's a 1.2, so it was never going to be a tyre shredded. And lastly, which I can't quite get my head around as to why, but the Bravo feels more comfortable. Before the ride was "fidgety", which I understand is one of the failings of them, but on the Coupe rims and tyres, the small bumps and uneven road surfaces are pretty well soaked up. And road noise/tyre rumble has improved and become quieter, although this is is probably because of the quality P-zero's. So somehow running the bigger rolling radius, with wider tyres, has improved the handling, and comfort.
The only other concern was the accuracy of the speedo. In theory with the Coupe rims and rolling radius, I should be seeing a fair level of under-reading on the speedo. Meaning at, say, an indicated 60mph on the speedo, I'm actually travelling at 62/63mph. My worry, with our speed-camera-fetishist government was: would that put me in potential jeopardy? Well I went out with a friend, and the Tom-Tom, and sat-nav'd the speed at 30, 60, and 70. At an indicated 30 on the Tom-Tom, I was doing an indicated 29mph on the speedo, at an indicated 60 on the Tom-Tom, my speedo showed 58/9. And at 70mph on the Tom-Tom, strangely I was showing a hairswidth under 70 mph on the speedo.
So all in, I would recommend this to anyone with a Bravo.
As for extra room under the arches. The rears seem to have loads of room, and I reckon with the correct offset and tyre size you could even fit 18/19's on them on the rear. On the fronts you're restricted, as the front bumper arch edge and rear of the arch edge are quite tight, although 17's look quite easy to fit, I reckon you could, with the absolute tightest tolerances, fit 18's.
The short story is the standard rims on the Bravo are in okay condition, but the front tyres were "on the limit". So rather than buying two new front tyres, I thought "why not fit the Coupe Alloys", which have Pirelli P Zero 205/50 r16 on. And all are in virtually brand new condition. With ample tread on all 4 wheels.
The 1st issue I found last week, were the standard Bravo Alloy bolts weren't long enough for the Coupe rims. You could turn them one turn on their thread, but clearly that's not enough to hold wheels on safely. Luckily I had a complete set of Coupe bolts at another location. So I got those on Thursday, and they now physically fit.
The 2nd issue I was concerned about was the rolling radius, and actually being able to physicallyfit the Coupe Wheel & Tyre combo in the arches of the Bravo, and what effect that may have on the speedo reading.
Physically they fit with no rubbing at all. Full lock right, and they're fine. Full lock left, and I can just hear the tyre rubbing on the plastic arch lining. Which can be easily pushed out of the way.
Normal travelling, the Bravo feels more planted. Grip is considerably improved. Acceleration is not quite as good. But then it's a 1.2, so it was never going to be a tyre shredded. And lastly, which I can't quite get my head around as to why, but the Bravo feels more comfortable. Before the ride was "fidgety", which I understand is one of the failings of them, but on the Coupe rims and tyres, the small bumps and uneven road surfaces are pretty well soaked up. And road noise/tyre rumble has improved and become quieter, although this is is probably because of the quality P-zero's. So somehow running the bigger rolling radius, with wider tyres, has improved the handling, and comfort.
The only other concern was the accuracy of the speedo. In theory with the Coupe rims and rolling radius, I should be seeing a fair level of under-reading on the speedo. Meaning at, say, an indicated 60mph on the speedo, I'm actually travelling at 62/63mph. My worry, with our speed-camera-fetishist government was: would that put me in potential jeopardy? Well I went out with a friend, and the Tom-Tom, and sat-nav'd the speed at 30, 60, and 70. At an indicated 30 on the Tom-Tom, I was doing an indicated 29mph on the speedo, at an indicated 60 on the Tom-Tom, my speedo showed 58/9. And at 70mph on the Tom-Tom, strangely I was showing a hairswidth under 70 mph on the speedo.
So all in, I would recommend this to anyone with a Bravo.
As for extra room under the arches. The rears seem to have loads of room, and I reckon with the correct offset and tyre size you could even fit 18/19's on them on the rear. On the fronts you're restricted, as the front bumper arch edge and rear of the arch edge are quite tight, although 17's look quite easy to fit, I reckon you could, with the absolute tightest tolerances, fit 18's.
