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Hi guys - Im new to the site. :slayer:

I have recently bought a P Regd Punto 55S 1.1 to work on as a project.
Its in red but has about 3 shades of red on it (pretty) as well as a dinted door due to some fool reversing into it and doing on sharpish!

Anyway, I want to know what i need to do the spray work myself. I have the means to sand it down to the metal, and know to tape up all glass, remove bumpers etc...
What air gun and paint do i need to do the work. Nealrest spray bay want to slap me for £400... no thanks:bang: (n)

Any help - will be greatfully recieved!


Stu
 
If thats for a full respray I would advise you to hold on tight to that guy and dont let go :p that is extreemly cheap (y)
 
your living in a dreamworld if you think thats expensive.
you wil get a horrendous finish doing it yourself as (no offence meant)but you sound like you have no experience of spraying.
you dont need to sand to the metal but the surface must be keyed ,primed etc
spray cans will in no way give you the finish of a pro respray and you will totally de value your car.as mentioned the cost of ebven a basic compressor will push you beyond £100 without even adding the spray equipment & paint.
i would happily pay £400 for a blowover on my cinq

should put up the sprayers details as im sure others would be interested
 
you aving a laugh mate. u fink £400 is expensive. jesus man not being funny, but for that price it would come out ****. i paid £500 for front and back bumper colour coded as well as handles and door trim, looks the nuts though. boot flush and sprayed for £250 aswell
 
Well, I'm not going to disagree with the others. I think that price would be worth spending.

However, I do all my painting myself, and always have. So, from my slightly-biased viewpoint, here's my advice on what you can get away with. :)

For a start, that red is hard to work with, because it fades to pink really well. You're going to have to decide whether to repaint the whole car in the original red, or most of the car in a 'matched' pink.

The hardest parts of a car to paint are the large horizontal surfaces (roof and bonnet). Why? Because it's difficult to hold the spraygun at 90-degrees to the surface, so you get a variation in thickness that gives orange peel (roughness). Also, and for the same reason, it's difficult to overlap the 'bands' from the passes with the spraygun. Finally, the horizontal surfaces give maximum catchment area for dust.

Paint: Spraying with aerosol cans may be suitable for a small (30cm square) area, but any more than that and it just won't work. Also, aerosol can paint (usually lacquer) is not as durable as the proper acrylic enamel paint that the car was painted with originally. In the factory, this paint was baked on hard. The closest you will get is a 2K paint (two-pack, paint and hardener that releases nerve-toxic isocyanates) from a quality brand such as PPG or Sikkens. This paint will be surprisingly expensive - to paint all of the Punto you'll need 3-4 litres, plus 1 litre hardener, and perhaps 2 litres of thinners - total bill probably over 100 pounds...

Still keen? You'll need a compressor with at least 8cfm displacement and 40 litre tank, though I get by with a 25L. I use an old Devilbiss JGA spraygun, but there are lots of cheaper imitations that can produce a good result, given lots of practice! You'll probably get a compressor, spraygun, and air hose (go for the non-springy type) for 200 pounds - but don't forget an air filter/water separator for the gun as well, and a pressure regulator if the compressor doesn't have one.

We haven't even started talking about the hours of sanding and priming required... for small areas I use an aerosol of primer/filler (really thick yellow primer) as a shortcut. This isn't ideal (you should be using a proper two-pack primer for the best foundation, as the aerosol primer/filler may shrink and this shows as scratches in the paint.

Basically, you are going to be putting in A LOT of time (how do I know - well it's what I shall be doing on my Uno today, tomorrow night, next weekend, and the weekend after that... and that's just for one panel!) but if that doesn't put you off, I'm sure you can produce a result that you can be proud of. Preparation is the key to a good paintjob - that's why that quote seemed cheap, because it takes many days of work to get ready for the half-hour or so of joyous spraying.

-Alex
 
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