anyone got a fiat in bossa nova white repaired recently? authorized fiat service painted my back wing 2 times and I still see the tone difference between door and back wing. i got opinion from other bodyshops and they all said its impossible to match it to stock colour. it's making me crazy, i'm planning to sell my car if this can't be fixed as they say and buy one in red or funk white.
issues with colour match (bossa nova white)
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issues with colour match (bossa nova white)
i got told sparkling blue, on my wifes panda eleganza, which is metallic with a touch of pearl, would be night on impossible to get dead on, yet the body shop who dealt with it after a side swipe, did a perfect job. i would say comes down to the skill of the bodyshop and it's staff, maybe yours are saying that to cover their own deficiencies?
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Many modern colours, not just metallics, are almost impossible to match edge to edge - that's why a professional bodyshop will 'blend' the paint into adjacent panels so that any slight difference is totally undetectable. It's easy for a good painter to do, but still many shops try to cut corners by painting the smallest area they can
i didn't want them to blend, because people would think that the door was damaged too. it's a disadvantage when it comes to selling the car. another thing is that pearl colours like BNW have more than one layer of paint, so colour match seems to be perfect in dark places but under sunlight the colour beneath shines more like white rather like creamy in factory paint. it is distinguishable even on back bumper where they blended the paint.
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Sadly it's virtually impossible to match many colours without blending..... but if it's done correctly there won't be any trace of paintwork - that's the whole idea! If you can tell it's had paintwork, it's poor paintwork.
Many common colours have several, sometimes a dozen or more, 'variants' - that means as far as the factory is concerned it uses one name and paint code for various shades of the same colour. Matching with colour cards or spectrometers will provide the nearest shade, but then it's down to the operator to make it invisible. The added complication with metallics and pearls is that application technique, air pressure, paint viscosity, type of thinners, ambient temperature etc. etc. all affect the final colour. Also, some are 2 coat systems ( base colour then lacquer), some are 3 coat (solid base colour, then pearl coat, then lacquer) And many need a specially formulated undercoat in a specific colour. It sounds like possibly yours has a mis-coloured 'groundcoat'
BTW, margin for error when mixing the paint is less when it's a white or very pale colour. A typical mixing formula might be e.g. 1500g white : 5g blue : 8g red : 2g black, so obviously the chap mixing the paint has to be spot on
Many common colours have several, sometimes a dozen or more, 'variants' - that means as far as the factory is concerned it uses one name and paint code for various shades of the same colour. Matching with colour cards or spectrometers will provide the nearest shade, but then it's down to the operator to make it invisible. The added complication with metallics and pearls is that application technique, air pressure, paint viscosity, type of thinners, ambient temperature etc. etc. all affect the final colour. Also, some are 2 coat systems ( base colour then lacquer), some are 3 coat (solid base colour, then pearl coat, then lacquer) And many need a specially formulated undercoat in a specific colour. It sounds like possibly yours has a mis-coloured 'groundcoat'
BTW, margin for error when mixing the paint is less when it's a white or very pale colour. A typical mixing formula might be e.g. 1500g white : 5g blue : 8g red : 2g black, so obviously the chap mixing the paint has to be spot on
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I sincerely hope you get it sorted soon. Best wishes and better luck in 2010
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I have a Bossa Nova white 500 and can see a slight difference between the doors and rear panels, and it has had no repairs done since leaving the factory and absolutely no evidence of dockside delivery repairs. Have noticed this on several BNW 500's , so can only assume doors are sprayed off the car in the factory, but this does not answer your question.
Am I missing something here? I thought that BNW was a solid white and the pearl colour was Funk White?
You'd better pop into the 500 forum and tell all the Funk White owners this. They think they have pearl paint that they had to pay extra for.
Edit: Even you called the pearl funk white!
https://www.fiatforum.com/500/217549-im-bit-worried-2.html?p=2321284
(sorry to hear about your dramas, BTW)
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yes i may have called it funk white it was a guess when i first posted that thread. you can just go to video configurator here: http://www.fiat500.com/int/ and check yourself which one is pearl. Bossa nova white certainly looks more creamy. it also sounds very cool it just can't be solid white.
it was a guess when i first posted that thread. you can just go to video configurator here: http://www.fiat500.com/int/ and check yourself which one is pearl. Bossa nova white certainly looks more creamy. it also sounds very cool it just can't be solid white.
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durukan. BNW is a solid colour, Funk White is pearlescent.
ok, i believe you mhh i guessed it from their looks in configurator. you can see the comparison below. right one is BNW, and left is funk white. it just doesn't feel right. whatever it doesn't matter which one is which though. how i wish i had BNW, funk white is a pain in the ass. by the way my car looks a lot more better then those pictures after second painting.
i guessed it from their looks in configurator. you can see the comparison below. right one is BNW, and left is funk white. it just doesn't feel right. whatever it doesn't matter which one is which though. how i wish i had BNW, funk white is a pain in the ass. by the way my car looks a lot more better then those pictures after second painting.
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I don't mean to be rude but if you told them it's BNW of course it's not going to match up with Funk White....ok, i believe you mhh
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I've had a similar issue with a customers car, apparently the paint company was bought out and there was some conflict between the colour codes, meaning that there were effectively two reciepes to make BNW, which i think is 268. I had a customers car fitted with rear park and rubstrips, and once they were fitted they stood out a mile, as the white on the extras was a much colder colour than the slightly off white of the car.
BNW will be a difficult colour to match as it appears bright white until the sun comes out when it appears to have a creamy colour. My front bumper and wings are slightly different colours though, and the car has never been in an accident. I just deal with it, most of my cars in the past have been like this so it doesn't bother me too much!
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