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    Fiat Punto II Airbag isolation switch fault and its fix

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    Does anyone know where to get the wire from as I have an MOT in a couple of weeks and the last thing I want to do is go to a dealership. I'm new to fiat forum so I'm not sure if I'm posting in the right place
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    Posted 29-09-2019 at 16:59 by J4MALD1N J4MALD1N is offline
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    Fiat Punto II Airbag isolation switch fault and its fix

    First of all you cannot reoccur you can only recur.
    Secondly FIAT will sell you the upgrade kit, 0051786225, providing you insist that you won't try to take it back!
    The you tube clip at
    is very helpful but omits some very important points, from my experience.
    First of all it is not necessary to dismantle the glove box or strip down the loom.
    The first step is to Disconnect the battery!
    Tools required are a T25 Torx head, 10mm open ended spanner or socket, small cheese head(or flat head) screwdriver, 2 flat blade watch screwdrivers and 3 cable ties.
    Using the T25 in the driver's well unscrew the bolt securing a plastic cover alongside the clutch pedal. Ease the cowling away and you will notice that there is a spring clip towards the bulkhead. Using the small screwdriver insert the blade between the metal clip and the base plastic. Press down and turn the blade simultaneously forcing the cowling out. With a torch you should now see a green hinge. Ease this up, or pull it towards the rear of the car and the cable will pop out from the ECU. Repeat the same process on the passenger side. Pull the cable through to the passenger side. Unscrew, and remove, the bolt closest to the bulkhead securing the ECU. Taking hold of the cable you should see two plastic clips either side of the block. Insert the two watch screwdrivers either side. Now use a screw driver to gently push out the cable block. This will reveal the wires. Using one of the watch screwdrivers press down on the pink wire and gently, with your other fingers, ease it up and out of the block. You will need to press twice to get it out. Insert the new wire and replace the cover. Thread it through to the driver's well. The earth eyelet, of the new wire, now needs to be fitted to the bolt you removed. Make sure the eyelet is touching the bulkhead out of the way. Tighten up the bolt.
    Now ease the switch out of its location using the flat blade screwdriver and open the glove box.
    Now thread the other end, of the new cable, up to the glove box, which should now be open. Push it through the hole. Disconnect the old block and replace with the new. Replace the switch and close the glovebox. Using the cable ties secure the new wire to the loom.
    Refit the plastic cowls. If you do not fit the plastic cover on the driver's side, correctly, then there is a good chance that the steering mechanism will catch the plastic!
    Reconnect the battery.
    I used the FIAT EPER UK website to determine my model of car to use the ECU MULTI SCAN software as follows.
    Record the details from your Vin
    The first 9 characters are your Model and the next 8 are your chassis

    Google – FIAT EPER UK

    http://eper.fiatforum.com/

    Go
    Spare Parts
    Fiat
    Select Model
    Browse by vehicle data
    Select Model – this is probably the first numerics of your Vin not including the alpha characters
    Chassis # from your vin
    Catalogue – select year from the drop down
    In MVS select your car – 5P= 5 door. Note the string of data. I found that the 60 refers to PUNTO 60 in the ECU Multi Scan options
    Engine Stamp – from your plate on the car
    Version Code - from your plate on the car
    Version – select your model
    Select NEXT
    From the drop down select 555 –Equipment and Electrical Devices
    From the next Drop Down select AIR BAG DEVICES.

    I then followed the instructions in the ECU Multi Scan guide to configure my COM ports.

    I then connected the KKL/VAG lead to both OBDii reader and my laptop.
    The rest is history! Hope this helps.
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    Posted 09-02-2014 at 21:10 by Toomyling Toomyling is offline
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    Wheel Bearings

    There cheap and should be easily done

    Sounds like atleast when it failed it was done and not run down to the bone

    Ziggy
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    Posted 13-08-2012 at 00:14 by Ziggy122 Ziggy122 is offline
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    Wheel Bearings

    Hi Ziggy, the first side (drivers ) is solid and sounds lovely and quiet no play all super (when the pad doesn't touch) however the second side (passengers) feels rough and has about 5mm play in it (at the top of the disc) its clearly on the way out however....

    Note the caps on the hub nuts the drivers side is shiny and of slightly different design compared to the worn side leads me to believe the drivers side was done just prior to us buying the car, now 5000 miles later (which is all we've done since having it) the other side is finally giving up.
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    Posted 12-08-2012 at 00:54 by AndyRKett AndyRKett is offline
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    Wheel Bearings

    you wouldnt be able to spin a front hub that easily, as it'd be turning all the differentials CV's etc

    So its gotta be a rear

    I was told if there isn't any play or noise and it feels like the bearing is full of honey - its a good bearing
    Ie its still lubricated properly and wont need touching

    However like the otherside there, it doesn't fee like anything, so i agree
    Dead bearing there

    Usually if 1 is dead the other isn't far off, but not so mch in this case?

    Ziggy
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    Posted 12-08-2012 at 00:42 by Ziggy122 Ziggy122 is offline
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    Wheel Bearings

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dirtyhands
    if you have bad discs dont do it and by the way thats the front not the back of car as stated,yes noisy,the whole hub has to be taken apart and flange pressed out first to get at circlip and then press bearing out and in and reassemble,not to be taken on with a bad back,i have a bad back also.

    Sorry but that is THE BACK of the car, the give away being the yellow number plate at about 8-9seconds. The discs are a little rusty round the edges but otherwise is in good shape, in the video the pad was lightly touching the disc on the drivers side (the good side) making a light rubbing noise.

    the rear wheel bearing are nothing like the front. Not pressed into anything (I believe) but held in place with a 32mm nut the hub and bearing is one assembly, just need to make sure to buy the correct version for the car either ABS or non ABS
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    Posted 11-08-2012 at 23:17 by AndyRKett AndyRKett is offline
    Updated 11-08-2012 at 23:48 by AndyRKett
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    Wheel Bearings

    if you have bad discs dont do it and by the way thats the front not the back of car as stated,yes noisy,the whole hub has to be taken apart and flange pressed out first to get at circlip and then press bearing out and in and reassemble,not to be taken on with a bad back,i have a bad back also.
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    Posted 11-08-2012 at 23:03 by dirtyhands dirtyhands is offline
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    Key Scratches

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    Originally Posted by jmckee4 View Comment
    Great guide. Wish I'd found something like this sooner. I've been filling my scratches for a while now, not really knowing what I'm doing. I've almost finished but the paint 'straddles' the scratches. Any tips?
    I drop of thinners on a cloth will allow you to wipe away the offending paint but you need to go easy with it so as not to damage the good paint that's already there, don't do it if the car has ever been resprayed as you can't be sure what paint was used
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    Posted 11-08-2012 at 15:05 by AndyRKett AndyRKett is offline
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    Key Scratches

    Great guide. Wish I'd found something like this sooner. I've been filling my scratches for a while now, not really knowing what I'm doing. I've almost finished but the paint 'straddles' the scratches. Any tips?
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    Posted 11-08-2012 at 10:21 by jmckee4 jmckee4 is offline
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    Key Scratches

    Ta...!

    Nice one! Thank you...!
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    Posted 10-08-2012 at 22:52 by homeward homeward is offline
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    Multijet Fuel Filter Replacement

    Probably, but you'd need to be careful not to crush the locking ring if you did that. I mention the use of a clamp which I adjusted to work as a huge spanner and held the bottom half of the housing still in a bench vice, worked very well without damaging the plastic
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    Posted 20-07-2012 at 22:22 by AndyRKett AndyRKett is offline
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    Multijet Fuel Filter Replacement

    Saying you need that silly looking tool -i agree DIY FTW

    Could you easily use a Oil Filter Strap sets?

    Ones with a Rubber Band type - tighten it up to open it like a jar for old ladies?

    Ziggy
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    Posted 20-07-2012 at 14:35 by Ziggy122 Ziggy122 is offline
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    Fiat Punto II Airbag isolation switch fault and its fix

    Having now done this fix there are a lot of things that this member has said which don't ring true in respect to this fix, it can be done in the claimed 0.25hrs / 15mins unless it's a real butchers job, you might be able to just about hack it together in about half and hour which would leave the wiring in a potentially dangerous state. to do it safely it really needs an hour plus the diagnostic time in an undiagnosed fault.

    Another thing that was claimed by this member was "The exclusion switch fault is a separate issue related to the design of the switch and the programming in the ECU. Cleaning and tightening terminals can make it less likely to re-occur"

    But the fix addressed an obvious ground noise problem nothing to do with programing or the switch design, if it were a ecu flash or a new switch would be the fix and not giving the switch it's own noise free ground. so it seems this member doesn't understand the fault, and made me wonder if they had ever performed the fix, in any case hopefully this blog post will now dispell all the myths and folk tales that surround this problem so people can be in possession of the facts and not the fiction
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    Posted 09-07-2012 at 23:49 by AndyRKett AndyRKett is offline
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    Fiat Punto II Airbag isolation switch fault and its fix

    a 'well respected' member on here told me that the fix could be fitted in the time allocated to the diagnostic but either this means that fiat bodge the job and hack the repair badly into place or this was clearly Bull S**T from someone who has no idea, i'm inclined to go with the latter

    That's a bit harsh lol...I believe what was ment was that the labour rate is adjusted and job time, basically this means that the customer gets the job done cheaper...nothing wrong with that is there?
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    Posted 09-07-2012 at 22:01 by T14086 T14086 is offline
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    1.3 MultiJet air filter replacement

    Thanks for the comments, please take a look at my Airbag reset video as well

    http://www.fiatforum.com/blogs/andyr...ght-reset.html
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    Posted 23-05-2012 at 01:48 by AndyRKett AndyRKett is offline
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    1.3 MultiJet air filter replacement

    Ever so slightly different for the new 95bhp one as its tucked a little further back but same idea.

    Applies to the 1.3MJET/JTDM in the Alfa Mito too.
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    Posted 22-05-2012 at 15:08 by alexh365 alexh365 is offline
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    1.3 MultiJet air filter replacement

    A nice clear video and a nice easy 2 min job
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    Posted 22-05-2012 at 09:52 by rkt2003 rkt2003 is offline
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    1.3 MultiJet air filter replacement

    [500 owner]Oh my that looks ever so complicated! I could never perform such a task on luiginabambinigizo[/500 owner]



    Good video!
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