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Re: Barchetta Hunting on idle

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You mean something like "That's amore" ?

Well, I tried:

In Napoli where love is king
When boy meets girl here's what they say

When the moon hits you eye like a big pizza pie
That's amore
When the world seems to shine like you've had too much wine
That's amore
Bells will ring ting-a-ling-a-ling, ting-a-ling-a-ling
And you'll sing "Vita bella"
Hearts will play tippy-tippy-tay, tippy-tippy-tay
Like a gay tarantella

and now she won't start at all!
There's a diver's version of that:

Put your hand in a crack, you don't get it back,
That's a Moray

It's been a long day!!
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Re: Barchetta Hunting on idle

Cool... I'll sing that the next time she won't start!

BTW, have you checked that theres no cracks in the flexable air intake going to the throttle body?

Mine split and it was hell to drive after that....

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I haven't, but I will.

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Re: Barchetta Hunting on idle

Quote Originally Posted by Mad Matt View Post
You mean something like "That's amore" ?

Well, I tried:

In Napoli where love is king
When boy meets girl here's what they say

When the moon hits you eye like a big pizza pie
That's amore
When the world seems to shine like you've had too much wine
That's amore
Bells will ring ting-a-ling-a-ling, ting-a-ling-a-ling
And you'll sing "Vita bella"
Hearts will play tippy-tippy-tay, tippy-tippy-tay
Like a gay tarantella

and now she won't start at all!
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Re: Barchetta Hunting on idle

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Alan.D thats what you mean or i am wrong?
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Re: Barchetta Hunting on idle

Couldn't see a crack, but I gave up looking as it was too hot today.

I did try "Italian tuning", but to no avail. I also took it on a nice long run to Luxembourg and back. Didn't help the motor, but it was a fun drive, especially on the way back with the top down :-)

I'll check for cracks again tomorrow.

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Re: Barchetta Hunting on idle

If you spray something like easy start round those air ducts you will hear the increase in revs if you spray it near a crack. Don't spray this stuff when the engine is at full opperating temp or it may dissapear in a cloud of smoke.
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Re: Barchetta Hunting on idle

Had same problem, hunting on idle although randomly, cutting out from time to time (especially on full lock) and hesitant to the point of stalling on small throttle openings such as driving in/out of the garage. I thought it might be ECU cos I just changed it, but pulled the air intake hose off, liberally brushed alchohol (what a waste ) wherever I could around the valve, plus WD40 for good measure until I could wipe no more carbon away - and now its bloody perfect!! (touch wood)

If this doesn't work (why not give it another try?) then if no luck - have you read the threads about ECU reset? It appears that if you disturb certain sensors the ECU has to 're-learn' the settings.

I still get random Injector light coming on - aren't Italian cars fun !
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Re: Barchetta Hunting on idle

I gave it another look and tightened the clips around the joints in the air intake system, but no joy. I'll try using easy start to see if I can find the leak.

I've got a CDA and I'm wondering if anyone else has found a better way to fit them. I assume you all kept the original piece with the mass air sensor in?

Did anyone remove the breather pipe? If so did you just leave it open or put some kind of filter over it? (I mean the breather which takes air our of the engine and feeds ot back into the air intake).

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PS. I'll also give it another clean :-)
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Has anyone had problems with the breather pipe blocking? I noticed that some other Fiats can have this problem.

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Re: Barchetta Hunting on idle

why not fit a breather filter.

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Re: Barchetta Hunting on idle

Thanks, that gives me a better handle on it all. I'm going to try and reduce the length and complexity of the pipes which lead to the throttle body. That should reduce any leaking or at least reduce the possibilities!

Thanks for the help so far!

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Re: Barchetta Hunting on idle

Well, after a lot of messing about I think the problem is caused by a leak in the air intake system.

I've got a CDA fitted, but it's not an easy fit :-) The BMC site shows it running straight from the throttle body over the radiator and down to the cold air.

This doesn't seem possible to me. If I try and follow this set-up I can't close my bonnet. Their diagram doesn't seem to include the metal section which contains the mass air sensor.

The guy who fitted it for me used one of the original parts to direct the system towards the ground (he had to cut a piece of hard plastic pipe with a small resonance chamber on it). The down section then contains the mass air sensor section and the CDA.

The problem with this is two-fold:
1. Once you add the corrugated metal tubing to the bottom of the CDA and point it towards the cold air the clearance of the car isn't very good. So, after a week I end up with a metal tube which is no longer round!
2. The grounding of the metal pipe seems to knock the system and cause leaks. I think the leak comes from where the hard plastic right angle pipe joins the rubber section connected to the metal body of the mas air sensor ..... if you see what I mean!

So, I've removed all the sections from the throttle body forward and re-fitted them, except the corrugated metal pipe. Last night and this morning, the car seems to run a lot better, but of course I don't think I'll get such a good cold air intake with it pointing directly at the ground.

My next ideas are to:
1. Try and mount the CDA a couple of centimetres higher to get the ground clearance I want. I'm hoping I can do this without breaking the seal around the hard plastic pipe higher up.
2. I could replace the section which comes off the throttle body and is also connected to the breather pipe. If I can find a rubber:silicon pipe which starts at 70mm for the throttle body and ends at 80mm for the mass air sensor body, plus bending at about 45 degrees I can probably mount it the way BMC indicate and get rid of the hard plastic join.

Any ideas where I can get a piece of pipe like that? I've tried my local car spairs shop, but no joy? Any thoughts regarding if I'm on the right track?

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I'll keep my fingers crossed it remains ok
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Re: Barchetta Hunting on idle

Well having got the idle problem sorted for a few days I have now ssen that oil is being lost from, I think, near one of the hoses on the right of the engine. One of them is a breather which goes into the air intake, anyone know what the other one is for?

My injector light also came on for a few seconds, I'm not sure if this is because the wires going along the top of the engine have been contaminated by the oil. In fact the wires go along a plastic support, which in my case is no longer fixed to the top of the engine and the general state of the wires seems poor, although I can't see any naked wires yet!
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