Register Login
FIAT Auto Specialist Team
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 04-01-2007   #31
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Bedfordshire
Posts: 3,304
Thanks: 43
Blog Entries: 26
Trader Rating: 3
docorangepeel has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: Leaky Gearbox

Hi,
Yep I removed the drive shaft from the car, just undo the main nut. Then hit the end with a rubber hammer and out it will come. Please see number 1in the diagram.
You will trash the nut so order a replacment from Fiat
Doc Orange Peel
__________________
docorangepeel is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 04-01-2007   #32
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 773
Thanks: 1
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Leaky Gearbox

When I changed my box I wondered about the small in the end of the driveshaft, my dad said it was something to do with air and letting it escape?
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

DanGil is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 04-01-2007   #33
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 159
Thanks: 1
Trader Rating: 2
United Kingdom 
Re: Leaky Gearbox

DanGil - That is my guess as well - it's supposed to be an airhole but on my driveshaft it also serves as a handy grease escape route.

I've come to the conclusion that I need the driveshaft off the car and onto the bench, so I need to beg borrow or steal (or maybe even buy ) a 32mm socket to undo the hub nut.

Alan, photo of the LH driveshaft disconnected from g/box but still connected to hub. Hope this shows you what you need to see. If not, let me know and I'll get some more pics...

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_4269.jpg
Views:	13
Size:	577.1 KB
ID:	22786

Pic of RH to follow. I'll also post a pic of the LH when its out.

Tonight I have mostly been drilling and re-tapping the holes for the airbox and resonator mountings following the shearing bolt incident before Christmas.

TTFN
Doog.
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

doogal is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 04-01-2007   #34
Ban the Mongol rally
 
Alan.D's Avatar
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: West Cumbria
Posts: 12,215
Thanks: 96
Trader Rating: 4
Alan.D has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: Leaky Gearbox

Spot on thank you, I take you have ABS.

BTW with the end of the driveshaft off it will be neigh impossible to get the hub nut off as it will just spin the driveshaft round
__________________
Before doing anything....
FFS DISCONNECT THE BATTERY.

Alan.D is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 04-01-2007   #35
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Bedfordshire
Posts: 3,304
Thanks: 43
Blog Entries: 26
Trader Rating: 3
docorangepeel has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: Leaky Gearbox

Alan D is spot on, you will need to put one or two bolts back in the brass end of the drive shaft so you can undo the large nut thats holding the wheel side of the driveshaft on.

The large 32mm nut has a locking part on it so tap that out before having a go at getting it of.

A bit of inspiration for you Doogal. Below is a picture of my B just after I finished the pain it the backside job of fitting the oil cooler. If I was going to do it again, I would take the rad out first.

Keep at it m8, I know it can be a real pain.

__________________

Last edited by docorangepeel; 04-01-2007 at 23:07.
docorangepeel is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 05-01-2007   #36
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 159
Thanks: 1
Trader Rating: 2
United Kingdom 
Re: Leaky Gearbox

Nice photo, Doc. Keep me thinking of better times when I get back on the road.

Alan - yes I have ABS.

Alan and Doc - it did occur to me that I may have trouble getting the hub nut off. Even if I reconnect driveshaft to gearbox, won't the diff still allow the driveshaft to spin (bearing in mind that I have the whole front of the car off the ground on stands and the the g/box is in neutral with the linkage disconnected)?

What about if I get an assistant to put a foot on the brake? May need to temporarily put the mcpherson strut back on as well to hold the hub in place.

Cheers
Doog
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

doogal is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 05-01-2007   #37
Ban the Mongol rally
 
Alan.D's Avatar
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: West Cumbria
Posts: 12,215
Thanks: 96
Trader Rating: 4
Alan.D has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: Leaky Gearbox

Yep that may work BUT the nut is put on at 280nm so you will have to be carefull of the ammount of pressure used so it don't fall off the stands. Torque wrench and a scaffold pole will make it easier, and whoever is putting their foot on the brake will really have to stamp on it.
__________________
Before doing anything....
FFS DISCONNECT THE BATTERY.

Alan.D is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 05-01-2007   #38
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 159
Thanks: 1
Trader Rating: 2
United Kingdom 
Re: Leaky Gearbox

Quote Originally Posted by Alan.D View Post
Torque wrench and a scaffold pole will make it easier

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_4272.jpg
Views:	5
Size:	582.1 KB
ID:	22825



Doog.
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

doogal is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 05-01-2007   #39
Ban the Mongol rally
 
Alan.D's Avatar
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: West Cumbria
Posts: 12,215
Thanks: 96
Trader Rating: 4
Alan.D has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: Leaky Gearbox

__________________
Before doing anything....
FFS DISCONNECT THE BATTERY.

Alan.D is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 11-01-2007   #40
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 159
Thanks: 1
Trader Rating: 2
United Kingdom 
Re: Leaky Gearbox

Doc OP - can you remember what size the front hub nut is? I bought a 32mm socket but that's too small. Swapped that for a 34mm impact socket (32mm is the biggest 1/2" drive normal socket you can get ) tonight and that is still too small. Is it a 35mm?? Have I got different hubs?

I'l update progress when I finally get the hub nut off.

Cheers
Doog.
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

doogal is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 11-01-2007   #41
Ban the Mongol rally
 
Alan.D's Avatar
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: West Cumbria
Posts: 12,215
Thanks: 96
Trader Rating: 4
Alan.D has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: Leaky Gearbox

It should be 32 are you sure it's getting over the threads on the driveshaft and it's not too shallow ?

This one is def 32mm.....

Click image for larger version

Name:	bea5.JPG
Views:	3
Size:	66.9 KB
ID:	23068
__________________
Before doing anything....
FFS DISCONNECT THE BATTERY.


Last edited by Alan.D; 11-01-2007 at 20:45.
Alan.D is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 11-01-2007   #42
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 159
Thanks: 1
Trader Rating: 2
United Kingdom 
Re: Leaky Gearbox

Is that the rear? Should the front be the same?

Doog.
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

doogal is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 11-01-2007   #43
Ban the Mongol rally
 
Alan.D's Avatar
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: West Cumbria
Posts: 12,215
Thanks: 96
Trader Rating: 4
Alan.D has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: Leaky Gearbox

It is the rear but they should be the same yes.

Every front wheel driveshaft I have ever removed has been 32mm from Mk1 astra to present.
__________________
Before doing anything....
FFS DISCONNECT THE BATTERY.

Alan.D is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 12-01-2007   #44
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 773
Thanks: 1
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Leaky Gearbox

If its the same as a punto hgt then its a 36mm cup, make sure you get a tough one (black coloured one) as they take more abuse.
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

DanGil is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 12-01-2007   #45
Ban the Mongol rally
 
Alan.D's Avatar
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: West Cumbria
Posts: 12,215
Thanks: 96
Trader Rating: 4
Alan.D has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: Leaky Gearbox

The cup or the driveshaft nut? Just looked at eper and they are different part no's front to back?.
__________________
Before doing anything....
FFS DISCONNECT THE BATTERY.


Last edited by Alan.D; 12-01-2007 at 02:01.
Alan.D is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Reply
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump
Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
(T) Seicento Gearbox Problems Sporty_5_Seicento Cinquecento / Seicento 18 18-06-2009 14:38
(T) gearbox crunch in 2nd :( jug Bravo / Brava 5 11-08-2006 15:09
(T) Changing hydraulic clutch gearbox to take a cable clutch? 4paws Uno 10 23-03-2006 15:56
(G) Leaky gearbox wsty Stilo 2 08-02-2006 19:07