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Old 02-08-2009   #31
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Re: What cars can i get bigger brakes off to fit the B

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I,d like to clear something,

Would the 284mm discs and calipers on the likes of the early coupe, or any 20ltr 16v bravo/ bravia maria's fit the B as a direct replacement upgrade.

Bearing in mind i have larger wheels on mine.

I think they would but if anyone know any different please confirm and why.
Barchetta, Bravo/Brava/Marea 1.6 auto, 1.8 16v, 1.9 JTD - All same brakes.

2.0 20v Marea/Bravo/Coupe, 2.4JTD Marea, 2.0 16v Tipo/Coupe 2.0 16v Turbo Coupe - all 284mm discs and have wider & larger bolt pattern.
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Re: What cars can i get bigger brakes off to fit the B

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Bumping this as I'm interested in an upgrade. The IOM TT circuit gets the brakes a bit hot!
Not sure how many times it needs to be said but I'll give it another go:

Option 1) Same size, good quality disks (not some cheap Taiwanese crap off eBay), pads, Goodrich hoses and high quality fluid. Cost 2-300. Improvement - noticeable but not massive.

Option 2) Bigger disks from Fiat Coupe Turbo (for example). Suitable calipers PLUS CALIPER ADAPTERS/HANGERS, pads, hoses and fluid. Cost 1,000 - 1,200. Improvement massive. Possible downside - unbalanced braking so budget for better rear disks and pads as well. Also, is the master cylinder up to the job? I'm not sure.

There's no cheap way to improve the braking substantially, and why would there be? If you want to drive fast and brake well be prepared to open your wallet. Having said that, a 130bhp - 150bhp car on well set up standard size brakes will stop perfectly well in most conditions. I'd say option 1 will be fine for most. For a turbo conversion be prepared for a bigger spend.
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Re: What cars can i get bigger brakes off to fit the B

Brembo's it is then... best start saving...
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You can pick up Brembos from a breakers yard for about 200!
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I was tempted by these but I really don't need to uprate mine at the moment.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FIAT-COUPE-20V...d=p3911.c0.m14

Brand new Brembo calipers. They look to be a bit sloppily painted and the Ferrari stickers need to be removed but at the moment there are no bids on them and a start price of 200. New disks are available from the same seller as well although I think they are a bit overpriced.

Finishes soon so be quick!
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Re: What cars can i get bigger brakes off to fit the B

Agreed with the bit about the standard brakes. Keep them in good condition, change the fluid and balance front and rear:- for a standard B thats fine. Beware of uprating the pads on the standard discs..can have a lot of unbalanced disc wear unless you change the discs at the same time.

I find that most of the time the standard brakes on my converted B work ok. At normal traffic speeds there isn't any difference. However the conversion means I have a potential 150Mph car which really ought to have decent stoppers. The few times I've wond the beast up..with the speedo off the clock! (on an airfield runway as the beastie isn't road legal / insured) the amount of fade at 140mph on standard set up is frightening..."Captain she won't take it...we aren't going to stooop!"

I have first dibs on the brakes from a written off 20vt..owner is truly unhappy..parked outside his house and rear ended by a dildo in a Volvo estate yakking on her mobile.
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Re: What cars can i get bigger brakes off to fit the B

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the amount of fade at 140mph on standard set up is frightening..."Captain she won't take it...we aren't going to stooop!"
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Re: What cars can i get bigger brakes off to fit the B

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...There's no cheap way to improve the braking substantially, and why would there be?...
There are some easy swaps available for some of the smaller Fiats, for example the 257mm vented discs and calipers can be bolt-for-bolt swapped for 240s onto a Cinquecento or Seicento and give huge improvements - just hoping the same could be done on the bigger cars.

Thanks for the info though
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Right, well I bought those Brembos in the end, couldn't resist. I'm going to get the caliper hanging brackets made and do a fitting guide when I get round to fitting them. It might take a while though as I don't get much spare time so don't hold your breath!

I might get a batch of the hanging brackets made up for anyone else who is thinking of doing this. Anyone interested? Alternatively I might try and put together some complete big brake kits with refurbed calipers, new disks and pads and the brackets.
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I might get a batch of the hanging brackets made up for anyone else who is thinking of doing this. Anyone interested?
I'm in, if price is reasonable..
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i'm in, if price is reasonable..
I might be talking b***** but if you do the big front brake conversion, would there be a way of using the original front discs and calipers to uprate the rear brakes ....just a thought , i,m no mechanic .
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Handbrake?
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lol....i did say i,m no mechanic
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Re: What cars can i get bigger brakes off to fit the B

Rather than posting a new thread, I'll add here.

I've finally got around to upgrading the front brakes on the B. One caliper had no dust seal on the piston, so it was gonna be scrap anyway if I needed new pads.

If you have an early Barchetta, they have quite small brake pads on the 257mm vented discs. If you have big enough thigh muscles, you can stop ok from Ridiculous Velocity, but Creg-Ny-Baa will just about set them on fire if braking from 110 mph.

For the grand price of 15 each, I got a pair of good condition Brava 1.9 JTD front calipers. Gave them a quick wire brush up, checked the pistons were ok and moved freely, dust seals all a-ok.
The calipers bolt straight onto the standard hubs. The Brava pads also have the pad wear sensor wire too, so it's all good.

I gave the discs a light rub over with emery cloth to deglaze and lightly score them, helps bed the new pads in quicker.

The result is much, much better braking and feel - a hell of a lot more confidence inspiring than the old setup. I'd heartily recommend it to anyone.

As a consequence, I have a pair of old mk1 (small pad) calipers in the garage if anyone needs them. Be aware that the drivers side one isn't much cop, with the dust seal being missing for 18 months+. Passenger side one is fine though.
As people on here have been a lot of help, they're free to anyone who wishes to collect or pay for postage (probably about a tenner?).
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hm... good to know that... do you have any size compare pictures? and those calipers fit in bolt? no need any special adjustment?
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