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Old 24-07-2009   #16
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Re: What cars can i get bigger brakes off to fit the B

There is a b in northern Greece with S3 breaks on... now I am not sure which parts the dude has used but I can find out if you are interested.
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Maybe this would justify me buying a set of those nice gold alloys like Robots
You might want to get some that fit right on without any modifications That said, they were £349 including shipping from California so it should leave you with some spare change to get the spacers for the PCD conversion
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You might want to get some that fit right on without any modifications That said, they were £349 including shipping from California so it should leave you with some spare change to get the spacers for the PCD conversion
Maybe I'll just sit and watch what others find compatable before I buy....
Had never thought about (or seen) gold alloys untill you posted that pic.....

But I think that they would look good on a Black Bee...

Must admit I'm not keen on the wobble bolt idea. seems to me like it could a weak point as these bolts are in both shear and tension loads it does not seem right that the heads should sit at an angle

I once had a brake calliper bolt fail and it frightened the c**p out of me

But I do like the idea of the gold wheels....
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...it does not seem right that the heads should sit at an angle

They don't.

Any wheel bolt has some clearance in the hole in the wheel. Wobble bolts have 'loose' collars which allow the bolt to sit off-centre in the hole (remember on 4x100 wheels we're only talking 1mm off-centre for each bolt) while still being held securely.
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I don't like the idea of it, seems as though it may compromise safety....

Twilight Johnny Atom, can you post some pictures of your car? I want to see those wheels more closely...
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I'm a bit light on decent pictures of the car. Will this do?



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iQue! I thought it was blue with minilite style alloys...
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I don't like the idea of it, seems as though it may compromise safety....

Twilight Johnny Atom, can you post some pictures of your car? I want to see those wheels more closely...
There is no shear forces on the bolt. The bolts are pulling straight in under tension.

There is no compromise in safety.
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Re: What cars can i get bigger brakes off to fit the B

I,d like to clear something,

Would the 284mm discs and calipers on the likes of the early coupe, or any 20ltr 16v bravo/ bravia maria's fit the B as a direct replacement upgrade.

Bearing in mind i have larger wheels on mine.

I think they would but if anyone know any different please confirm and why.
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iQue! I thought it was blue with minilite style alloys...
Heh... that's my Photoshop plaything. Minilites were on the cards for a while before I bought the Momos but I couldn't get the deal I was looking for from Minilite. I'd still like a set.

KC3, are you looking to improve braking or looks? I'm pretty sure any larger disk is going to need the adapter brackets and won't neccessarily improve braking. It will depend a lot on the caliper clamping force as well as the pads and disk itself - and just replacing the fronts COULD have a dramatic negative effect on braking balance. For generally better braking a decent set of disks and pads from someone such as Tarox would offer a noticeable improvement. And probably only cost around £200 each end for brand new disks and pads.
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Heh... that's my Photoshop plaything. Minilites were on the cards for a while before I bought the Momos but I couldn't get the deal I was looking for from Minilite. I'd still like a set.

KC3, are you looking to improve braking or looks? I'm pretty sure any larger disk is going to need the adapter brackets and won't neccessarily improve braking. It will depend a lot on the caliper clamping force as well as the pads and disk itself - and just replacing the fronts COULD have a dramatic negative effect on braking balance. For generally better braking a decent set of disks and pads from someone such as Tarox would offer a noticeable improvement. And probably only cost around £200 each end for brand new disks and pads.
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I've no idea. The picture was taken at the Bristol Italian Car show a couple of years ago.
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Not exactly a clear answer but more of a pointer. Check the bolt size and spacing between for the two bolts that hold the caliper onto the hub.

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I,d like to clear something,

Would the 284mm discs and calipers on the likes of the early coupe, or any 20ltr 16v bravo/ bravia maria's fit the B as a direct replacement upgrade.

Bearing in mind i have larger wheels on mine.

I think they would but if anyone know any different please confirm and why.
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Re: What cars can i get bigger brakes off to fit the B

What i want, is improoved braking.

I presently run vented grooved discs with Ferrodo DS500 front pads, and fast road pads on grooved rear discs. the brakes have improoved over the standard setup but still feel it doesnt stop me how i would like too.

with the upcomming Turbo modification and 200horses pulling me i would like some bigger ranes.....aka bigger brakes...

A big brake conversion like the Brembo's or Tarox would be perfect but rather expensive and so looking at other posible avenues.

The bolt patern or measurement for our brake calipers is 100mm
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Re: What cars can i get bigger brakes off to fit the B

Bumping this as I'm interested in an upgrade. The IOM TT circuit gets the brakes a bit hot!
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