Technical Driveshaft problem

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Technical Driveshaft problem

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I have been advised i need a centre bearing for the n/s drive shaft , but fiat dont sell on its own you have to buy the driveshaft aswell, also require anti roll bar bushes for the front same again fiat dont supply these on there own there own i have to buy the roll bar aswell. anyone know where to buy these without going to fiat any help will be gratefull
 
Methinks they way forward is to buy a complete s/h replacement maybe from Barchettaparts at 60 Euro. Specify with or without ABS. The driveshaft is just that, a splined bar. It has a circlip at either end retaining the gubbins. The outer c/v wears more frequent cos of greater range of movement and is ever readily available in repair kit form. The inner is POA on sites I visited, a recon shaft complete £130 odd (both ends) Unless you can mimic LRB and buy new off Ebay at £80 odd....... A touch, not likely to be repeated I expect.
Dunno about anti roll bushes. The Doc was the man but .......
I'm assuming that >>centre bearing<< is actually referring to the inner C/V joint. The inner is far less stressed (range of movement)
 
on the drivers side driveshaft caso there is a bearing that goes in the centre of the driveshaft this part is worn . Can anyone have a look under there B to confirm this is the case . it is on the longer of the 2 driveshafts .
 
On the drivers side (n/s) Driveshaft there is not a bearing in the centre of the shaft per se. There're only a C/V joint at either end covered by a rubber boot. Inner or Outer (2) Do you mean the "bearing" ie C/V joint within either end? I'm 100% sure the outers are easily obtained. I suspect the inners are too but less easy to source solely on the basis they seldom wear as much. Rubber boots do. My inner boot was rogered (not a MOT failure inside one!) it spread black grease but still retained loads of lube to the inside (where it's crucial)
We have a terminology problem. Which end? Inner? or Outer C/V ? The drive shaft is just a splined shaft. Retained by 6 bolts + 2 constant velocity joints at either end (at gearbox) and (1 x 36mm nut) to the wheel hub and into the wheel bearing. Are we talking wheel bearing & not drive shaft?
 
Caso i am talking about the driveshaft cant take any photos car is in garage ,i am positive it is the drivers side in the middle of the shaft there is a bearing hence the name centre bearing.
 
Nein ! not on a Barchetta. There is no bearing in the centre of a drive shaft. It is a shaft. At each end there is a c/v joint too. At one extremity the shaft enters the hub wheel bearing or the CV joint does at t'other the c/v joint bolts (6) to a gearbox.
I'm wondering again about terminology. Are you referring to the n/s driveshaft entering the wheel hub bearing about which the brake caliper n disc is placed too? The drive shaft is about 18" ish in length, straight with rubber boots at either end. The drivers side then has a c/v which enters the wheel bearing hub and tightened by a 36mm nut which is visible from the centre of the wheel (assuming you took out the plastic bit in the centre) or used the space saver or removed the road wheel.
 
Caso in the centre of the 18"shaft on mine there is a bearing on it . nothing at all to to do with the inner or outer cv joints . I shall go and take a photo of it when i next see my car .
 
I'm baffled cos it ain't shown on Eper either. We're talking middle as roughly 9" in length not in middle of the 1" thick shaft?
 
Left n/s........I assume where the shaft enters the hub? which is the wheel bearing? surrounded by the ABS ring (if you've got ABS) It's circular with notches. A magnetic sensor 'counts' the notches to know if'n the wheel has stopped turning ? I suspect you are not referring to a drive shaft problem as such. Usually a CV joint is rogered, hidden inside rubber boots. Methinks you've a L/H wheel bearing problem?
 
Hmmm, I am keeping stchum until I can see a photo.

There are CV's and each end of both driveshafts and a bearing on the wheel side where the driveshaft passes through the hub and in the case of the drivers side there is a bearing on the inside of the gearbox where the driveshaft enters the gearbox. :confused:
 
Caso thanks for the help , i shall take a photo when i see my car, This bearing that is attached to my car is on the driveshaft, and has nothing to do with the inner cv or the outer cv it is attached to the driveshaft in between the two .
 
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>>Hmmm, I am keeping stchum until I can see a photo.<<

Oy Vey!

We have a descriptive terminology problem.
If any D/S is removed there ain't ever no bearings at all? just 2 C/V joints
You can't see inside a gearbox? No bearing visible.
There is a hub & hub wheel bearing that can sorta be seen. THE only one.
My money is on n/s wheel bearing within the hub which is (shafted?)

LRB knew a bit about anti/roll bar bushes, did you not?

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CasaPaulo;2109872LRB knew a bit about anti/roll bar bushes said:
ARB bushes are a total pain in the ass, I have not been able to track down anyone who sells them individually - I think you can only buy them as part of a kit.

To be honest I am considering uprating mine ARB's to the Eibach kit which comes with a set of poly bushes. Chatting to a FIAT mechanic late last year who believed that if I could get the old bushes off and take them to an Autofactors they would probably be able to match them up to a generic bushes. Might be worth a try? My biggest worry is that the bolts look as if they are going to be a total ******* to remove.
 
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You beat me to it Doc, popped in to the garage today took some photos this is the bearing housing bracket that the driveshaft goes through on the passenger side of the car. this is not a straight through driveshaft as has been suggested from inner cv to outer cv , there is a bearing attached to the driveshaft which has a knuckle on it , the part has now been sourced and is £157 from fiat .
 

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