LittleRedB said:

Should only be half hours job famous last words...........French build quality is worse than Italian!!

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its not worse.. its just more awkward... Chez PSA they have got an unhealthy fondness for rivetting and using counterrotating bolts

eg removing the airbox from a PSA 2 liter Turbo engine: two different types of (worm)clips , FIVE different sizes of bolts and a bracket where the easy reachable hook/loop end is rivetted while the other end is bolted to the engine behind an coolingtube which hasn't ANY give in it. But that is ok, as you have to drain the coolingsystem anyways, becuz the reason you have to remove the airbox is because you want to reach the thermostat housing to replace the thermostat ...

i love PSA engines, they are unbreakable, but my god are they awkward built

Some Wheel Bearings references

95 - 05/00
NON ABS
FRONT: BRT1141
REAR : BRT1377
ABS
FRONT: BRT1141
REAR : BRT1492
05/99 ->
ABS
FRONT: PWK0434
REAR : PWK0429
source: http://www.carparts-direct.co.uk/


95 - 05/99
NON ABS
FRONT: LBK8421
REAR : LBK8344
ABS
FRONT: LBK8419
REAR : LBK8344
source: http://www.bettaparts.co.uk/


95 - 05/99
NON ABS
FRONT: KIT246 or KIT1118
REAR : KIT736
ABS
FRONT: KIT246 or KIT1118
REAR : KIT964
05/99 ->
ABS
FRONT: KIT1097
REAR : KIT1101
source: http://www.technostart.co.uk/

Note: if your B is build between 04/99 and 06/99 (see chassisnumber) it could be any of the above, as the Doc said, at a certain point there were two types: "old" ABS, and "new" ABS (ASB) system.... a visual check is advisable

RnRollie said:

yeah, that is not the problem, the problem is that i dont have a breaker-bar to loosen the bolts ... although with 200 lbs of body mass i might be able to force something ... (probably a muscle or kneecap when the spanner slips)
AND that i dont have a torque wrench which goes "high" enough. It only goes upto 60 nm, which was more then enough to mess with bolts on Citroen engine and body at the time i bought it

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Don't really need a torque wrench for the hub bolt as it's a TAF setting, if you can tighten it up past 280nm you'll be going some.

dunno, if i extend a wrench with some 6 feet of decent pipe and go stand on the end of it, weightng 16 stone, that'll be a LOT more then 280 Nm

so, i'll better use a torque multiplier - 60 inch extention should do it
http://www.belknaptools.com/extcalc.asp

although, most likely something will snap before i reach 280 Nm, with my puny torquewrench being 3/8" square drive

However, i've inherited a few spanners and sockets from my father who used to work "on the buses" .. some of the bolts and nuts on trams and busses need solid kit (and a hammer, always a hammer ). Some of those spanners would probably lift the car off the ground in steadof deforming or breaking

its going to be a fun w-e again

Rollie I have a 1/2 socket wrench I've kept & used for the last 15 yrs. Don't know the make but know it's well made. I remember removing the hub nut from a rover 820, used this wrench with a 6' scaffold pole to get it undone nothing seems to break or harm it....

Snapon, King Dick or bluepoint?

LittleRedB said:

Snapon, King Dick or bluepoint?

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why does that sound to me like those Pns-enlargment emails?

Well, if you thought that Italian build quality leaves a little to be desired the French re-write the rules!

I am half way through changing the front discs and pads, really easy job made very difficult by the fact that the calliper bolts are torx heads and are VERY tightly in place - so far I have snapped 4 Torx T55 sockets!

While the car is in the air I have had a quick poke around underneath and am shocked at the build quality, we have a 2001 and it is already showing signs of rust on numerous bits (some of which are structural), plus the exhaust heatshield has rusted and fallen onto the exhaust and the fixing points have rusted so there is no way of re-attaching it!

We have had the Picasso for just over a year now and the only good thing I can say about the car is its size, for a family of 4 who go out a lot and have bikes the size is ideal. On every other aspect I would have to say I am disappointed, fuel consumption is worse than the Barchetta, it has cost over £400 in non-service items, it rattles, the roof leaks - the list goes on.

As soon as I get a longer term income I will be replacing it, anyone have any suggestions?

Multipla or Ulysee, ok the Ulysee is a peugeot or feels the same as sitting in the Peugoet combi van but if it's space you want they are brill.

Vauxhall Zafira

More expensive than the Fiat equivilent.....

yes, but with less awkward niggles

Not convinced....

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Slaps my own wrist....

Continuing with the :Offtopic: theme, what about one of these??

Jap build quality and reliability, a bit funky, decent size inside, 1.6 VTEC engine..........

get a hyundai tucson... lots cheaper

:yuck: to the pair of you :nutter:

LittleRedB said:

Continuing with the :Offtopic: theme, what about one of these??

Jap build quality and reliability, a bit funky, decent size inside, 1.6 VTEC engine..........

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Would stay away from anything big and with 4x4 as the gov will soon be shafting us with the new car Tax bands and check out some of the new banding costs wow. All this and making a good few extra billion on fuel this year is just getting so out of hand. :bang:

well, there are always the f*-ugly like a Kia Sedona '99 (the one with the scoop on the bonnet) or a Dacia Logan MCV
http://www.renault-dacia-logan.com/dacia-logan-mcv-volumes.php

docorangepeel said:

Would stay away from anything big and with 4x4 as the gov will soon be shafting us with the new car Tax bands and check out some of the new banding costs wow. All this and making a good few extra billion on fuel this year is just getting so out of hand. :bang:

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Totally agree, but there is a 2wd version which drops into the 'car' tax band

RnRollie said:

well, there are always the f*-ugly like a Kia Sedona '99 (the one with the scoop on the bonnet) or a Dacia Logan MCV
http://www.renault-dacia-logan.com/dacia-logan-mcv-volumes.php

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:yuck::yuck::yuck::yuck::yuck::yuck::yuck:

But you posted a Honda :nutter: I know your Old mate but didn't think you were old enough for a honda