Panda (Classic) A perfect Sisley? [H961 VMB]

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Panda (Classic) A perfect Sisley? [H961 VMB]

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Not enough shots of the interior: but appears to have every single bit of exterior metalwork you could wish for -- including the drop-down rear bars. Something strikes me as not being quite right, though... -- maybe it's because the wheels are wrong... -- can't put my finger on it.... :confused:

If it's as good as it looks, though, could be worth every penny.... :chin:
 
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Not enough shots of the interior: but appears to have every single bit of exterior metalwork you could wish for -- including the drop-down rear bars. Something strikes me as not being quite right, though... -- maybe it's because the wheels are wrong... -- can't put my finger on it.... :confused:

If it's as good as it looks, though, could be worth every penny.... :chin:

Wrong bonnet scoop maybe why you think that? It should be a different style & colour coded.

Also the grille should be colour coded.

Do they mean it will come with the correct wheels? The description doesn't explain. :confused:
 
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Wrong bonnet scoop maybe why you think that? It should be a different style & colour coded.

Also the grille should be colour coded.

Do they mean it will come with the correct wheels? The description doesn't explain. :confused:

It just has the feel of a 'normal' 4x4 that's been resprayed and Sisley-ized, to make some extra dosh. That scoop and grille make me wary... -- plus the fact it's so bright...! Something is not right.... :nono:

It also doesn't explain what the "uprated engine" is.... :confused:

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The car was involve in an front o/s accident for sure.
First photo - look on the alignment of o/s wing and bonnet edge, o/s head lamp and indicator lens,. So the non OE scoop and black grill explains all. Was twin sun roof Sisleys introduced in UK?
 
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The car was involve in an front o/s accident for sure.
Look on the alignment of o/s wing and bonnet, o/s head lamp and indicator lens,. So the non OE scoop and black grill explains all. Was twin sun roof Sisleys introduced in UK?

Twin sunnies was an option yes.

Alarm bells ringing for me too. If it had an honest description of the accident damage, the exact steps taken to rectify this, and why the grille and bonnet vent are wrong then maybe it would start approaching that price, but not for me at that. Though I will concede that at certain angles it looks the part. But for me I would have to track down a sisley grille with the badges.

And are they referencing the 4 x 4 cam when they say uprated engine? If so then if I remember correctly they are 5bhp too high at that. Also why wouldnt they include under bonnet photos.
 
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the seller is a FF member.. he just never posts on here though :(.. must be shy ;) :p

from what he has told me, it seems like a fantastic sisley. just wish i got to meet it in the flesh before he sold it.

Did he mention why the front grille has been changed? The potential of accident damage may be a bit offputting to potential buyers if its not discussed beforehand?
 
i asked him why its not "right" and it is all down to personal preference.
he has the original red grille. he told me that he was going for a tomb raider land rover style all black trim and wheels. even the exhaust is painted black.

the reason why he is selling it is because the guy is moving out of the uk to live over seas. he has quite a car collection so cant take them all with him. even another sisley. but that one he is taking with him.

think his ebay name and forum name is the same.. or almost the same.
 
i asked him why its not "right" and it is all down to personal preference.
he has the original red grille. he told me that he was going for a tomb raider land rover style all black trim and wheels. even the exhaust is painted black.

the reason why he is selling it is because the guy is moving out of the uk to live over seas. he has quite a car collection so cant take them all with him. even another sisley. but that one he is taking with him.

think his ebay name and forum name is the same.. or almost the same.

That clears that up then thanks for asking him! :)

EDIT I cant stop looking at this panda, its almost like I am destined to own it at some point :eek: though wont be any time soon :(
 
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Hi fellow Panda enthusiasts,
I am the present owner of this Panda Sisley on ebay.
First of all, would like to thank John for alerting me that the usual Fiat armchair experts have been panda spotting again
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Although I have been a forum member for many many years I don't post or comment because I am a bit too forthright in the words I use. I don't like offending people in their taste of cars or modifications.
Ref my personal taste in cars. Current collection of Panda's :
1. 13 plate Green twinair 4x4
2. 2013 White twinair 4x4
3. 2007 silver 4x4 13k only
4. 56 plate blue 4x4 home abroad
5. Sisley on ebay
6. another Sisley for home abroad
Others present cars :
1. Autobianchi y10 s3 96
2. Ypsilon 98 1.2
3. Punto with Evo 2 Integrale engine
4. Delta Integrale Evo 1
5. 2 x Lancia Fulvia
the list continues..
Have collected these cars for 30+ years so know my way around them quite well.
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Anyway back to the Sisley..
Just to put things right, going to comment on what you guys have been saying in my normal forthright way. Not intending to offend anyone.

"Grille should be colour coded." -- I have the original red grille with no damage. The buyer can choose which one they prefer. The metallic grey grille is an original Sisley one too. The Sisley + Fiat badges are on it, just hard to see in the photos, as I am not a professional photographer.
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"Do they mean it will come with correct wheels ?" -- Both sets of wheels are included in the sale.
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"What is uprated engine ?" -- The engine is 1108cc from my Lancia Y10 55 bhp. Genuine 35k miles from new. New headgasket, waterpump, belt kit fitted, seals/clutch, ht leads + quality coil etc etc when it was fitted so it is the ultimate in reliability.
"Car was involved in a front n/s accident for sure" -- No it was not. Bonnet was unbolted to remove engine, would only take a few minutes to allign correctly. With so many cars, have just not got round to it. Probably only take 2 seconds if you are as skilled as Kolza is
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"Would have to track down Sisley grille with badges" -- No you wouldn't. The grey one and red one are both Sisley grilles. Take your pick.
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"Are they referencing the 4x4 cam engine ?" -- No Y10 1108 is 55bhp standard.
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"Why no under bonnet pics ?"
"Not enough shots of interior" -- Because ebay only let you upload 12 pictures.
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Any inspection is welcome means if you are genuinely interested come and have a look. Or get a local forum member to look for you
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"Wheels are wrong" -- 175 / 65 / 14 michelin balloon tyres and wheels from mk3 Panda 4x4 are my preference for higher gearing, increased ground clearance and comfort.
You're welcome to put the Sisley wheels on if that's what you prefer.
"Is armrest quite short or is it just me ?" -- Lol. Yes it is just you. You must have been on the beers when you said that. It's a door handle not an armrest by the way. And it's the normal length
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I didn't realise ebay was a Fiat forum concours d'elegance show. Although with some work this car could be concours one day.
Anyone who appreciates how much work and care has gone into this Panda to keep it in this condition is welcome to contact me on the phone number provided in the listing.
If I don't answer straight away, leave a message or text as I don't like phones as much as I like Panda's, if you know what i mean
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I will try to come to a forum meet before i emigrate, to make sure all posters on this topic have their cars to the same standard as they judge others by.
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I don't have much time these days as having so many cars is a second full time job on top of a normal life. So can't guarantee I will be on the forum again for a while. Any questions, you know my numbers.
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Is it just me or is that armrest quite short?
No, yours are too long:p
I didn't realise ebay was a Fiat forum concours d'elegance show.
Yes you're right you haven't been on much lately;) Although with an 1108 engine fitted and the original Sisley wheels & grille included that must be worth mentioning in the ad, the folks paying top dollar for Sisleys these days like their originality.
Nice car though. What's the other one like if that's the one you're getting shot of?
 
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