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stamps in the book mean nothing if it has no bills to match it.
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"VERY RARE!" - like a classic Ferarri, almost

And it's good to see the liberal use of BLOCK CAPITALS and loads of !!!! - you just don't see enough of that these days.
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Now on eBay for a whisker under £4k.

"Believed to be the only one for sale in Europe....."
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Re: 2.4 on the bay £2.5k start

I won the car, but then let it get away only to then find it readvertised for crazy money!
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Advertising it for crazy money doesn't mean that anyone's actually going to pay it.

These days a 1.4 shopping trolley is worth more than 2.4 luxury car. Fuel prices and all that.

Did you decide not to buy it for £2500, or did the seller make excuses?
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Now back nearer to reality........

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/used-car...01306287535797
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stamps in the book mean nothing if it has no bills to match it.
A bit late here but I must slightly object.

I'm a Chartered Engineer with an international recognition and registration number. I service my own cars (out side of manufacurers warranty) to full manufacturers speciafications and IMHO to a better standard. I fill in and sign the car's service coupon complete with my registration number. I have no bill to offer but I have my professional reputation "on the line".

Why am I popping my head up! Simple. I and all my professional colleagues are totally fed up with every man and his dog being called "engineers". Washing machine engineer etc. etc.

Whilst I don't agree 100% with the information in this link,
Engineer Engineer
, what is clear is that a true and qualified engineer is something completely different and a million times more important and professional than the so called engineer to fix your washing machine, car or other item.

In Europe (excluding UK) it is an offence to call yourself and engineer if you do not hold the relevant qualifications and registration. Sadly in the UK anybody can call themselves an engineer and it pisses me off a million times over when the likes of the BBC etc. use the word engineer for every person/pratt etc. as they see fit. I would not be surprised if they saw my rabbit holding a spanner they would call him an engineer!!!!!
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Re: 2.4 on the bay £2.5k start

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A bit late here but I must slightly object.

I'm a Chartered Engineer with an international recognition and registration number. I service my own cars (out side of manufacurers warranty) to full manufacturers speciafications and IMHO to a better standard. I fill in and sign the car's service coupon complete with my registration number. I have no bill to offer but I have my professional reputation "on the line".

Why am I popping my head up! Simple. I and all my professional colleagues are totally fed up with every man and his dog being called "engineers". Washing machine engineer etc. etc.

Whilst I don't agree 100% with the information in this link, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineer , what is clear is that a true and qualified engineer is something completely different and a million times more important and professional than the so called engineer to fix your washing machine, car or other item.

In Europe (excluding UK) it is an offence to call yourself and engineer if you do not hold the relevant qualifications and registration. Sadly in the UK anybody can call themselves an engineer and it pisses me off a million times over when the likes of the BBC etc. use the word engineer for every person/pratt etc. as they see fit. I would not be surprised if they saw my rabbit holding a spanner they would call him an engineer!!!!!
i cant see how that fits in with what i said,

Garage stamps can be bought anywhere you don't have to prove who you are. garage stamps also go walkabout. This is why i say they mean nothing with out the bills to back them up.
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S130 - if I was buying from an individual who claimed to have serviced and maintained the car themselves, had receipts for all of the parts and fluids they had purchased in doing so, that would be good enough for me based on a combination of the Seller coming across as genuine and knowing what they were doing and also if the dates and mileage on the books/receipts/MOTs all joined up. I would want all of the said receipts to be sold with the car to form part of its history for if and when I sold the car.

However, on service books alone I am with Dave 100% regardless as to whether its a private or garage sale, which is based on an experience I had myself - and not just in terms of the stamps themselves.

A few years ago when I was searching for a particular car, I went to look at what appeared in the advert to be a very nice, but a little expensive example - although I initially put that down to its Spec, reasonable mileage and the fact that it was for sale at a Prestige used car dealership - Ferrari's to Beemers, Porsches to Mercs and Audis, and tucked in amongst them a highly specced 166.

It was indeed a nice looking car and had a book of annual stamps regardless of the mileage it had covered but not a bill, invoice or receipt in sight when I asked.

I looked at the book in detail and it had a mix of Main Dealer, Specialist and I guess local garages across the period of its time with its 3 previous owners.

Accompanying the stamps in the book were either the "oil change" or "Service" boxes ticked, plus the obligatory unreadable squiggle of the Mechanic or Service Manager in each one. That was it - nothing else.

I asked about evidence of a cambelt change - which on age should have been done, but the Salesman said "I would have thought so - you can see its been serviced always within schedule", but could provide no evidence and would not reduce the price to take into account that I would need to have it done for peace of mind.

I left it. Went away. Couldn't sleep. I really wanted it - but it was right at the top of my budget, plus then i would need to cover the belts,idlers,tensioners and renowned iffy water pump on top!

Without announcing I was coming back, I went again the following week to hopefully try and chip away again at the price and, as luck would have it, the first Salesman was no where to be seen. So, I tried my luck again as if a first time viewer.

New Salesman came across as knowing very little about the car, the model itself or Alfas in general, so confidently I got the "really needs the cambelt sorting as soon as possible" chat in and how I would be looking for a "contribution" by means of a discount from the price.

"Actually, I am sure that the belts have been done Sir" he said as we returned to the showroom and he pulled out the service book. He thumbed through the pages and declared "Look, all noted here" and he showed me the self same book I had studied the previous week and there, at 48 odd thousand miles, at what I guess was a local garage were the words.....

"Full Cambelt kit supplied and fitted"

.......in a different colour pen (blue instead of black!) than the ticks and squiggles, and clearly thicker and fresher ink than the other pen work in the same box.

If I had got the discount I had wanted to get the belts sorted at visit 1, I may have placed a deposit that day.

They never got a chance to explain or offer me a discount at the second viewing as after seeing the service book "addendum" I made a rather damning statement in the showroom and left to continue my search elsewhere.

Maybe after my first visit they had phoned around the garages who had stamped the book and asked them?

The again maybe they hadn't............
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I'd agree with the comments about 'engineer'. You can't call yourself a doctor if you're not but anyone can claim to be an engineer regardless of training or experience.

However, I also have no interest in stamps in a service book. I usually forget to take mine in when I've had it serviced, but I do keep every receipt, whether for bits I've bought myself or from every service/repair. Put them together, especially with MOT advisories and you get a full picture of the car and it's ownership.
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I meant to add that that I DO have all the receipts for parts etc. and I have my own very very detailed service check sheet that I fill out and copies of these are passed on with any cars I trade in or sell.

What I was saying is that I stamp my book BUT DON'T have a VAT registered garage service invoice.

Yes I'm totally with Dave on the garage stamps going walk about etc.. And even for those that don't based on some of the workmanship I have seen over the years an invoice can often hide a multitude of sins.

Meanwhile, for you DIY Croma owners feel free to use my service check sheet below

FIAT SCHEDULED SERVICE ITEMS (tick = required/done)
(x = not done)
(- = not applicable)

Car: Diego - Fiat Croma 150 Mileage: Date:

[ ] 12 : 12/24/36/48/60/72/84/96/108/120/132/144/156/168/180/192/204/216
[ ] 24 : 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24
[ ] 36 : 36 36 36 36 36 36
[ ] 48 : 48 48 48 48


12K
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( ) Check operation of seat belts, inspect visible mountings
( ) Check all int./ext. lighting, indicators, windscreen washer, wiper, horn
( ) Check/Lubricate door locks, hinges, bonnet/boot release, straps
( ) Check clutch & brake pedal free travel and tolerances
( ) Check headlamp alignment and reset as necessary

( ) Check for leaks in fuel lines and coolant hoses
( ) Check for leaks - engine, transmission, steering oil, brake fluid
( ) Check fit/condition-exhaust

( ) Check front wheel toe-in
( ) Check tyres for mix, condition, pressure, tread depth(mm) - Torque 108 to 132 Nm

( ) Check front steering/ball joints & rack gaiters
( ) Check front drive shaft rubber boots
( ) Check front wheel bearings for play and noise
( ) Check front brake pads for wear
( ) Check front calipers and hoses for condition and leakage
( ) Check front discs for condition and minimum thickness (26mm)
( ) Check front shocks for leaks
( ) Check front strut to hubs assembly bolts for tightness

( ) Check rear wheel bearings for play and noise
( ) Check rear brake pads for wear
( ) Check rear brake cylinders and hoses for condition and leakage
( ) Check rear discs for condition and minimum thickness (18mm)
( ) Check rear shocks for leaks
( ) Check/Adjust handbrake

( ) Check/Top up level - brake fluid, battery electrolyte, washer fluid
( ) Check/Top up coolant level, test antifreeze
( ) Check condition & adjust as reqd. engine ancillary drive belts
( ) Check cylinder compressions - if suspected

( ) Change Oil Filter + seals & Dowty washer
( ) Change Engine Oil
( ) Reset Oil Degradation Counter (record values first!)

( ) Drain water from fuel filter

( ) Change Air Filter Element
( ) Change Air-Con Pollen Filter Element

( ) Clean Boost Sensor
( ) Check engine oil level
( ) Clean engine compartment (only if really necessary)
( ) Road test, check operation-engine,clutch,transmission,brakes,instruments
( ) Check oil filter for leaks
( ) Check engine idling

( ) Reset Service Counter (record values first)
( ) Fill in Car Service Record Book

24/48/72/96/120/144/168/192/216K (or every 2 years)
--------------------------------
( ) Change Fuel Filter + seals (use oil filter chain wrench)
( ) Clean flame trap / crank case breather
( ) Check/Top up transmission oil level
( ) Change Brake Fluid - DOT4

36K (or every 3 Years)
---
( ) Replace auxilary drive belt
( ) Check condition/wear/slack of timing belt, renew if necessary

48K/50K
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(-) Check Fuel Vapour Recovery System (petrol engine only)
( ) Change Timing Belt, Tensioner & Pulleys (or every 5 years)
( ) Fit New Water Pump

60K (or every 5 years)
---
( ) Change Antifreeze - long life - 5 years


PARTS:
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[ ] 12K ( )Engine Oil 5L
( )Oil Filter - 71737926 - Mahle OX386D
( )Air Filter - 73502069 - Mahle LX1294
( )Sump Plug Dowty Seal - 55196309
( )Pollen Filter - 51805219 - Mahle LA117 - FRAM CF9495

[ ] 24K ( )Fuel Filter and seals - 77363600 - Mahle KX208D
( )Brake Fluid Dot 4/5, 1L min

[ ] 36K ( )New Auxilary Drive Belt - 55200253 / 6PK1410 / 6PK1413

[ ] 50K ( )Timing Belt - Gates Kit KO15623XS
( ) New Water Pump

[ ] 60K ( )Antifreeze - long life - 5 years


SERVICE NOTES
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I'd agree with the comments about 'engineer'. You can't call yourself a doctor if you're not but anyone can claim to be an engineer regardless of training or experience.
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what about Dr. Dre
He's a Dr of music
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Is it just me or might we have discovered that "Check front drive shaft rubber boots" is one of the most important, and most frequently overlooked, things on s130's servicing checklist?
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