It doesn't matter really as it's all going to change soon anyway...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/green-motoring/9301269/Drivers-punished-for-going-green.html

The govt brings in green taxes, we all respond by going greener, the govt complains that they're not taking as much off us.

They did very well out of punishing VED prices for a few years, until we got the chance to change cars.

And they always say "green" taxes are to change behaviour, not to raise money. Yeah right.

they never should have lowered road tax for green cars in the first place, low emissions don't stop roads wearing out. don't reckon they lost much anyway am sure they added it to the rest of the cars that didn't come under the green label

The change of Eco tax was enevititable eventually.

These highly paid people that come up with these schemes don't seem to understand unintended consequences.

I'll bet their solution is something like this - we're £13 billion short, there are 1 million new cars registered every year, so charge a registration fee of £13,000 per car. Job sorted.

Then everyone stops buying new cars, plan failed again.

I like one of the comments on the article: We need a hybrid government that doesn't burn as much cash.

too true

dave said:

they never should have lowered road tax for green cars in the first place, low emissions don't stop roads wearing out. don't reckon they lost much anyway am sure they added it to the rest of the cars that didn't come under the green label

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road tax doesnt go towards road maintenece,so no link there.

Id like to know what it is for then...

Road tax just fills the government's coffers no doubt to be plundered for expenses and huge payrises that the noble folk in Westminster deem necessary :bang::doh:

custard said:

road tax doesnt go towards road maintenece,so no link there.

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but it should.

it goes to government and government give money to councils to fix roads so some must

dave said:

but it should.

it goes to government and government give a mere pitance to councils to fix roads so some must

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I've fixed that for you Dave

Actually the local councils get a fair wad of cash from the government, but they spend it on vast salaries, expenses, consultants and diversity officers. But they make a token effort at filling the odd pothole to show they're making an effort.

Just hand over the money to your rulers - don't dare to question what it's used for.

I watched a brilliant programme about the 1950s last week. They said there was a boom because income tax was reduced... from 9% to 7%. And that was without the myriad of stealth taxes, tax on tax etc that we have today.

I wonder where it ends - taxes only ever seem to rise. This present lot talk about cuts but seem incapable of cutting anything meaningful.

...and back on-topic, two offers made, £600 and £700 (two different people). Both declined.

He should have fixed it before selling though. Perhaps he's looking at a Fiat dealer price for the repair.

Anyone interested in buying it?

Doing some ebay spying, it looks like the £700 offer was made by a car dealer, who has negative feedback saying he'd clocked a car he sold.

Cheap for a reason, but I do not lilke the values on general of Fiat's at the moment, seem all models are taking a battering. Mostly Multipla & Croma, as my wife ( FFF2 ) still has not replaced her mangled wreck of her last 57 plate Croma

Sister brand Alfa values of Mjet 159 are plummeting after this model was discontinued September 2011, as are the Spiders & Brera

Fiat has a hole for new models as does Alfa, till 2014.

even if you had to spend 800 putting it all right its still cheap for what you are getting for the money, probably not a bargian so much for people that pay others to fix their cars but for the diyer its a lot of car for little money

dave said:

even if you had to spend 800 putting it all right its still cheap for what you are getting for the money, probably not a bargian so much for people that pay others to fix their cars but for the diyer its a lot of car for little money

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Agree 100%. In fact FFF you should offer a grand for it and spend your remaining thousands on beer.

In fact, why are you complaining that values are low? You're buying, not selling. Mine won't be going anywhere until it's scrapped, so I couldn't care less about how little it's worth.

If it means I can get a GP Abarth SS for a shade under £7k I'm laughing

Doofer said:

Agree 100%. In fact FFF you should offer a grand for it and spend your remaining thousands on beer.

In fact, why are you complaining that values are low? You're buying, not selling. Mine won't be going anywhere until it's scrapped, so I couldn't care less about how little it's worth.

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A good one is hard to come by, when you intend on keeping it, instead of a moron who cannot drive, crash into it.

There is a poverty spec one on an 09 plate on autotrader and petrol of course, now thats a bargain. do not see many 1.8 Croma's around, but could be jazzed up though.

1.8 petrols cost the price of half a croma to tax though

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1.8 petrols cost the price of half a croma to tax though

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Only the 2.2 automatic (see post 6):

https://www.fiatforum.com/auction-watch/300523-bargain-someone.html

I didn't even know there was a 1.8 petrol. Probably somewhere around £250 for that at a guess.

Looking through the classifieds, year on year Stilos are now fetching around £600 more than a Croma - how exactly does that work then? I know which I would rather have.

Re the car in question, bid a grand, spend a grand and you still have a very nice cheap car.

Had my Croma nigh on six years now and with only 55k on the clock I will be keeping it at least another two.

In general £33bn is raised from taxing the motorist (I don't know how much of that is VED) but only £9.1bn is spent on new roads or repairing the existing ones. It is estimated at this rate of spend it would take 10 years to repair all the existing potholes in Britains roads.