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It's been amazingly quiet down here, but to be fair I've not been into town. On a normal Saturday nite, there's a fair bit of traffic, but today has been pretty standard Covid quiet.
 
It's been amazingly quiet down here, but to be fair I've not been into town. On a normal Saturday nite, there's a fair bit of traffic, but today has been pretty standard Covid quiet.

I live on the outskirts, but on a hill so I can see down to the town. Lots of flashing blue lights out last night which suggests much drunken idiocy happening again :(
 
Big queue outside one of the Wetherspoons in Peterborough yesterday at 5pm. I guess the place was full and they were running a 1 in, 1 out system. I'm not that desperate myself and can't see the attraction. Home for a glass of sauv. blanc, packet of crisps, Absolute classic rock on the radio and feet up on the patio - laaaavly!
 
quite rural where I am but a few pubs seem to have come back to life, with a small number of people smoking outside and lights on inside, carparks which have been empty for months now have cars in them.

Also noted a steady increase in the traffic in the last few weeks.
When I first went back to work I could do my 22 mile journey without stopping and no resistance on the road, now there are a lot more cars, not quite rush hour traffic but maybe 60 - 70% of normal traffic.
 
Country pubs around Teign Valley and Dartmoor had some cars in car parks with a few folks sat outside but certainly not what you'd expect this time of year.
 
went to my barbers today, appointments only now. no mask no haircut, only 3 seats for waiting and set well apart, disposable capes that he want happy about as bad for environment but seems better idea than everyone sharing the same one. He said the 2l bottle of barbercide the blue stuff they wash combs and stuff in has gone up from £15 to £60 and everywhere has old out locally.

When i got home and put news on, hairdressers on there were all still using same cape for all customers.
 
Sorry for the disappearance chaps, I've been trying to sort out my visa for the last few weeks - it expired 3 hours ago :eek:

Luckily though, the good people at immigration agreed to extend it for 30 days due to the ongoing situation in the UK, so I'm sorted until August 6 at least.

Taiwan has relaxed mask restrictions now, you only need to wear them when you enter the subway barriers and can take them off once through. I think that's due to the bottlenecks there.

Still seems kinda pointless though - we've been 3 months now without a local infection.

It seems like tourists won't be allowed in until next year though, so I have to try and string this out as long as possible - if I leave I can't get back in.

I had thought about going to Thailand - but they require visitors to quarantine for 14 days (Which is ok) - in a government designated hotel (even if you have an apartment) - that just happens to be one of the most expensive ones there is ... total scam, obvious kickbacks going on there.
 
...we've been 3 months now without a local infection...

The pacific rim countries seem to have handled this much better than the west, with just the right amount of carefully thought through intervention.

Here the leaders on both sides of the political divide run around like headless chickens, alternating between doing not enough and doing too much and destroying just about everything (except for the virus) in the process.

I think we are now about to discover it is much harder to restart an economy than it is to turn it off.
 
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- but they require visitors to quarantine for 14 days (Which is ok) - in a government designated hotel (even if you have an apartment) - that just happens to be one of the most expensive ones there is ... total scam, obvious kickbacks going on there.

can you not pay for a test to bypass quarantine like you can here?
 
can you not pay for a test to bypass quarantine like you can here?

By the sounds of it.. it wouldnt be 'affordable' ;)



(Sorry this shoulve been a new post..) :eek:

In UK News
Driving past Bristol on the M4 today.. saw a big poster: billboard in a field.. looked like it was in tatters..after wind and rain

Then I realised.. it used to have an image of a couple in a hot tub.. Wookey Hole Resort..
it was covered with blankets.. as if the People of the South West were not so keen on tourists :chin:
 
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can you not pay for a test to bypass quarantine like you can here?

Nope. You do need to be tested there though, which is also an extra fee.

You also need to have a proven travel insurance policy that covers up to 100,000USD against covid - which can't be cheap either!
 
lets guess how long it is before the boarders are shut again.

we have found drugs that save 1/3rd extra lives. So the current death toll plus 1/3rd is where the curve truly is if you are comparing to the original curve. It want be long before everywhere is back to square one.

in my opinion. I hope I am wrong though.


The news only mentions the R0 number. The viral load is also important. As restriction are eased peoples exposure to higher viral loads will also increase eventually driving up R0 in a month or so time.


November would be my guess
 
Anyone in a high risk group should be on Hydroxychloroquine. HCQ is well proven for malaria with low side effects when taken correctly. It's a prophylactic so will not work for people seriously ill with Covid, just as it wont work for people who are ill with Malaria. WHO went to great fanfare with a "failed" HCQ survey. They gave large doses of HCQ to intensive care patients. Not surprisingly they all suffered side effects and not benefits from the treatment. It was designed to fail but did prove that you need high doses to get the side effects.

Vitamin D is the next one. The official RDA dose is enough to avoid rickets with a decent sunlight top up each day fill the requirement for immune health. Those who don't get the sunlight (UV-B to be exact) don't get the top up. Vitamin D supplementation is accused of causing high calcium levels, but those who take the pure vitamin don't get that problem. It is however medically prescribed and usually sold with calcium tablets.

Covid triggers an inappropriate immune response. Here's a study which shows psoriasis (an immune disorder) is affected by vitamin D.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1365-2133.2011.10699.x

This is by a medical Dr. But it's You Tube so it must be rubbish.
https://youtu.be/1plkwhi5KUE

Then there's zinc
Quote from a recent study by Mohammad Tariqur Rahman and Syed Zahir Idid
Zinc plays crucial roles in many aspects of life. In the course of infection, the immunomodulatory role of Zn is well evident. In the current pandemic of SARS-CoV-2, Zn supplement could play an important role to treat COVID-19 patients such as (i) added immune boosting effects with anti-viral drugs and (ii) stopping SARS-CoV-2 replication in infected cells, if combined with chloroquine. In view of this discussion, oral Zn supplement can be given using a suitable form of Zn-salt.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7250542/
 
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