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Whatever normal was for you personally, something will have changed and will likely remain changed for some time yet - queueing for shops for example, still gonna happen for a while if the shops have any sense. Working from home (where feasible), still gonna happen for a while if the employers have any sense (luckily mine does and aren't even thinking about letting most of us back to the office until at least Sept). Going to visit family? Getting closer to normal, but I'm still not gonna risk going to see my old mum just yet.

Nobody knows what is coming in health and wealth. Just have to adapt and try to survive. I think Britain's thirteenth best cartoon band captured all of this new-found cliché best (and kindly provided subtitles).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMGfNCgNtjY

Wonder how long that petrol I filled up with in January will last...
 
Changing the subject slightly, regarding the upcoming "quarantine" measures for those entering the UK.

According to what I've read, non UK citizens that refuse to provide contact info can be refused entry, but UK citizens that refuse to provide contact info will be issued a £100 fine.

I'm assuming they can't stop entry for UK citizens?

Is there anything to stop someone for example to go off on holiday, fly back, refuse to give details, pay £100 fine, then back to normal?

If that is the case, makes a bit of a mockery of the system.... almost like paying for the privilege of avoiding quarantine.

Not that I think it'll last long....the economy of the travel industry will take precedence...... although to be honest, when other European countries are down to double digit new infections and 0 deaths in a day, they should be more worried about UK citizens visiting their countries than their citizens visiting the UK.
 
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Another sad backlash of this situation, drugs are not getting up the A9 and there has been unrest in the drug world up here, two men murdered, stabbed to death and one women badly injured in hospital. There have been other things happening like fire starting, break ins have gone up, and let’s not forget the scams. This time will go down in history for all the wrong reasons.
 
Is there anything to stop someone for example to go off on holiday, fly back, refuse to give details, pay £100 fine, then back to normal?

If that is the case, makes a bit of a mockery of the system.... almost like paying for the privilege of avoiding quarantine.

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They could just give the details of an old phone with a free sim or buy a cheap tesco or ebay phone. Address is on a passport they should just use that and then say stay in as police will be randomly visiting people, if they are not in when police knock on the door £1000 fine.
 
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They could just give the details of an old phone with a free sim or buy a cheap tesco or ebay phone. Address is on a passport they should just use that and then say stay in as police will be randomly visiting people, if they are not in when police knock on the door £1000 fine.

Surely they would take passport details down
Or at least you'd think so
 
I've spoken to a colleague who came in this morning on the ferry. He's exempt, but even so had to fill in the entire form.

There was no need for him to prove his address or telephone number.

All border control were interested in was that he had the "receipt" to say he'd completed the form.

So, if you were so inclined, you could fill in any information that you want.....some random address and phone number.

The only piece of info that in theory needs to be correct is passport number, but as has been mentioned already, that doesn't link to the address. Even if it did, the form asks for your "home" address, and then the address where you will be isolating, which can be totally different.

In other words.....as put in a newspaper article, as long as you don't put down your name is Mickey Mouse and your address is Buckingham Palace, then there's no way they can know if the info on the form is genuine or not.
 
That could be just so true Dave. I automatically delete an awful lot of emails I don't recognize and all spam without reading it. Been doing it for years and it hasn't had any effect on my life as far as I know. I also don't have a smart phone so if I don't crank the laptop up for a few days I wouldn't know anyone had been trying to get me. We've also taken SKY's call blocker as it was offered to us free when we renewed our broadband last Christmas time. We used to get shed loads of scam calls - you know, "This is microsoft technical department wanting to sort a problem your computer has notified us" or " This is Amazon with details of your free Prime account, If you can just give us your bank account number we'll activate your free account" and many more. Now we really don't get any at all so it will probably block these ones you are talking about. Sometimes it asks us if we want to talk to the person calling, all we have to say is No, and it permanently blocks that number (unless we chose to unblock it).

It seems that people could be asked to isolate multiple times too. It also occurs to me that the people who test positive may well be working in an environment where infection is more likely so these people will be being asked to isolate again and again. Not many employers will be able, with even the best will in the world, to operate a business in this way, guess who will go?

Revenge reporting might be a very real risk too, as will "forgetting" to report friends who you know are really scratching to make a living.

The big problem I think is that all these high flying, well off, powerful people down there in the enclave called London really don't have any idea what life is like in a Glasgow tenement or back street in Newcastle or hill farm in Cumbria. We've had a number of examples of them just lately haven't we? They are not worrying where the next meal is coming from, or how they are going to get the bags home from the food bank, or when they are going to get their pitiful universal credit payment. - neither, thank god, am I, by the way, but I'm nearer to seeing the problem than them high heid yins.

Oh, and by the way, please don't tell Mrs J about Karen will you? It's cost me a fortune in bribes to keep her secret all these years!
 
Walking home from the supermarket a short while ago, I was passed by a car, from which came a large cloud. Obviously the driver was vaping.

The sweet sickly smell hung in the air for the next 50-75 yards.

We are encouraged to socially distance as droplets from our breath should hit the ground before 2m. But that fog from vaping has been into and back out of that person's lungs, and surely could be carrying the virus. As it hangs in the air, and I can smell and taste it for some time, I suppose I could now be infected.

Smoke from cigarettes hangs in the air too, can that carry the virus?

Should smoking and vaping outdoors be banned? Smoke or vapour from a neighbour in their garden can carry across several gardens.
 
Walking home from the supermarket a short while ago, I was passed by a car, from which came a large cloud. Obviously the driver was vaping.

The sweet sickly smell hung in the air for the next 50-75 yards.

We are encouraged to socially distance as droplets from our breath should hit the ground before 2m. But that fog from vaping has been into and back out of that person's lungs, and surely could be carrying the virus. As it hangs in the air, and I can smell and taste it for some time, I suppose I could now be infected.

Smoke from cigarettes hangs in the air too, can that carry the virus?

Should smoking and vaping outdoors be banned? Smoke or vapour from a neighbour in their garden can carry across several gardens.

This came up at the start and they said it wont, i think they were lying. they said you can smell things from a lot further away than a virus can travel.
I don't trust that advice i will start and arguement if someone is vaping in a queue near to me

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I've had some odd news.
We had our antibody test through work yesterday, the hospital we work for have been keen to test staff quickly.

I had a negative result so no antibodies for me, but her in doors tested positive for antibodies.

Either of us have had any symptoms and we've never isolated from each other, three times a week (wink wink).

I'm starting to think I might be immune!
 
This came up at the start and they said it wont, i think they were lying. they said you can smell things from a lot further away than a virus can travel.
I don't trust that advice i will start and arguement if someone is vaping in a queue near to me

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It is true that smells can travel a long way. The initial answer about smells was probably referring to just the smell particles in the air, which are unlikely to be carrying any virus. But the vapour from 'electronic cigarettes' is apparently quite large droplets, which curely can carry lots of nastiness. As the droplets dry out in the air, it is possible that the smell may carry further, but the original cloud I think is quite dangerous.
 
This came up at the start and they said it wont, i think they were lying. they said you can smell things from a lot further away than a virus can travel.
I don't trust that advice i will start and arguement if someone is vaping in a queue near to me

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And it just smells so unpleasant doesn't it?
 
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