Coronavirus - The Thread :(

[Bernievarian]

Clearly the NHS will have thought about this, because a small additional percentage of O2 can be dangerous.

The air we breathe contains only about 21% oxygen and 78% nitrogen, the remaining % being shared by all other gases. Breathing pure oxygen is very dangerous because it will all transfert to the blood and alveolas would colapse ! In normal mixture, nitrogen not being transfered to the blood, it keeps the alveolas inflated when the oxygen is going into blood .

Also the "covid rooms" are maintained at negative pressure so nothing can accidentaly escape, but by the controlled (filterd, processed, etc.) air supply / extraction system.

Stay well All, Bernie.

 

[AndyRKett]

The air we breathe contains only about 21% oxygen and 78% nitrogen, the remaining % being shared by all other gases. Breathing pure oxygen is very dangerous because it will all transfert to the blood and alveolas would colapse ! In normal mixture, nitrogen not being transfered to the blood, it keeps the alveolas inflated when the oxygen is going into blood .

Spot on.

The negative pressure thing is used in uk hospitals but it’s not wide spread, for example where my wife works they had not used the negative pressure room for many years, it had eventually become an office and so when this all kicked off they had to turn the office back into a patient room. Negative pressure spaces are not wide spread across hospitals and so big areas of patient isolation are being set up. Basically preventing people from entering locked down areas of the hospital and having to don all the PPE before entering

 

[judderbar]

The air we breathe contains only about 21% oxygen and 78% nitrogen, the remaining % being shared by all other gases. Breathing pure oxygen is very dangerous because it will all transfert to the blood and alveolas would colapse ! In normal mixture, nitrogen not being transfered to the blood, it keeps the alveolas inflated when the oxygen is going into blood .

Also the "covid rooms" are maintained at negative pressure so nothing can accidentaly escape, but by the controlled (filterd, processed, etc.) air supply / extraction system.

Stay well All, Bernie.

I was surprised to find Breathing pure oxygen could be dangerous. We live and learn!

Thanks

 

[dave]

And your wifes a Doctor and treatment is available.

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what is this meant to mean i don't understand? we have already lost doctors already treatment did not save them.
not only that but lots of our doctors are not ours at all and are here on work visas, if they die saving us the family they have here will be displaced.


Driving a bus is dangerous 9 bus drivers just in 1 city have died from this, and they are behind a screen, not face to face like healthcare workers.

I've a mri on saturday and i am s**t scared i have to be even that close to the war zone let alone working on the front line or having a loved one working there.

 

[judderbar]

what is this meant to mean i don't understand? we have already lost doctors already treatment did not save them.

Sorry it had nothing to do with treatment for covid

https://www.fiatforum.com/announcements/479535-coronavirus-thread-4.html?p=4524998

 

[jimboy]

Young woman 20 has been charged with being out during lock down up here in a Clio North of Tain doing 150 mph. Anyone who knows these roads know they are pretty much deserted at the best of times, any car will stick out like a sore thumb simply being solitary at the moment.

 

[DaveMcT]

Sorry it had nothing to do with treatment for covid

https://www.fiatforum.com/announcements/479535-coronavirus-thread-4.html?p=4524998

Covid-19 aka SARS-2 is another bat virus. Bats live around 20 years in tight colonies. The get regular cell damaged caused by their flying stress, To avoid autoimmune disease, their immune systems have become down-rated. They have become a great reservoir for viruses.


During the 1970s Mau's policies starved millions to death so wild animals were used as food. The resulting wet markets boomed. These markets are known to be a source of viruses (e.g. SARS-1) but they make money so the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) have ignored the risks.

In short, it's not about racism. Its about calling out a soviet style government that refuse to do their jobs properly and then covers up their mistakes even pretending it was not their fault in the first place.

 

[dave]

Any one know why America is putting people in a mass grave in what looks like a derelict industrial site? we put mad cows in a better grave in the uk (when we stopped burning them) seems very strange and disrespectful from the outside

 

[AndyRKett]

I saw this this morning, apparently they are all homeless or no next of kin so in trumpian America mass graves for nobodies is perfectly acceptable.

 

[chris3234]

Any one know why America is putting people in a mass grave in what looks like a derelict industrial site? we put mad cows in a better grave in the uk (when we stopped burning them) seems very strange and disrespectful from the outside

It's where they bury all there "John does" and other such people drug overdose ect where the city is paying for the funeral

 

[dave]

I saw this this morning, apparently they are all homeless or no next of kin so in trumpian America mass graves for nobodies is perfectly acceptable.

It's where they bury all there "John does" and other such people drug overdose ect where the city is paying for the funeral

That's very sad, they deserve to be treated better than that. i wonder how many once contributed lots to society then became mentally ill and got no support, bet its loads

 

[AndyRKett]

i wonder how many once contributed lots to society then became mentally ill and got no support, bet its loads

From what I understand a lot of the homeless quite often have been in the armed forces, so probably contributed more than most.

 

[dave]

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[dave]

From what I understand a lot of the homeless quite often have been in the armed forces, so probably contributed more than most.

look like just cardboard boxes too, are they risking the virus ending up in the water table or does the virus die with the person?

 

[AndyRKett]

Sort of, its still a living thing at the end of the day and it does need a host to survive. The likelihood is they will have cleaned the bodies, and they will have lined the cofins, but then they are also buried in the ground and covered over.

The virus will only live for so long outside of a host, so by the time a box breaks down the virus enters the soil, the water in the soil carries it into the water table and that water re-enters circulation with living people, the virus will be long dead.

Other countries are burning their dead. I believe italy has a massive back log of bodies at crematoriums.
Here in the UK we are lining up refrigerated lorries outside hospitals, we will still deal with the dead in a respectful way.

normally this place in new york is used to bury the dead who are unknown or have no next of kin, but its usually only a few bodies a week in individual graves it seems some idiot has just seen it fit to deal with the situation by shoving more bodies in bigger holes.

What however happens when it turns out people are missed, just not at the moment because everyone is in isolation so not able to go and see people they would normally. What about people who might be traveling and not always easily traceable. How will anyone know who is buried there?

 

[dave]

What however happens when it turns out people are missed, just not at the moment because everyone is in isolation so not able to go and see people they would normally. What about people who might be traveling and not always easily traceable. How will anyone know who is buried there?

It does look like some thing that will come back and bite them on the arse, it wouldn't take much to flatten the derelict buildings and turn it into a nice green burial ground, but if they don't care about them when they are alive, there is no chance of them spending on the dead

Just checked out old school friends funeral company on facebook and they are having to arranging them by phone. Not a nice way to do it but i think they will still do it well, they did my mum and dad years back and were amazing.

 

[judderbar]

A virus is not really a living thing. It is more of a mechanism that can reproduce itself when it can insert itself into a cell.

Rather like a car that is outside of an area of maintenance, eventually it can no longer work.

A virus is somewhat like a cross between those micro robots we see in sci fi films and the alien creature which inserts itself into a host.

It is an odd thing.

 

[dave]

aww news just said The mass grave is also used when families cant afford to pay for a funeral, and is only accessible by boat.

 

[dave]

Family convinced me to cancel my mri scan today saying not worth the risk, if ive put up with the pain for 30 years another 12 weeks wont make much difference

 

[DaveMcT]

look like just cardboard boxes too, are they risking the virus ending up in the water table or does the virus die with the person?

Viruses cannot survive for long outside the host. Flu in mucus deactivates as the material cools. Others cannot tolerate the lactic acid build up in dead bodies. Who know CV-19 will survive for days on surfaces but it should die soon enough.


Cremation makes the most sense. Less space needed and fewer risks of virus transmission.