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It’s ok to carry on working renovating houses. Plenty of information on the government websites.
 

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Luckily at the moment I have no work. Can live off my partner's pensions, as long as she does not succumb to the virus.

As a driving instructor, I cannot keep my distance, so my one learner is hibernating. Most of my work is with fleet drivers, and over half of that is with supermarket drivers. Their job is classified as essential, but new drivers cannot be allowed out on their own until they've had a risk assessment - so that'll be me then. At least the cabin of a Sprinter van is quite spacious. Currently I will only get allocated local jobs, and new drivers only, and if they cannot find another trainer to travel into this area. So far, so good, no work.
 
On the other side, seasonal flu killed 50,000 in UK over the last year, yet there is never a lock-down to control flu. We still do not have a true comparison of CCP Bat flu with seasonal flu.

Please don't compare this Covid 19 virus with seasonal flu! A lot of people seem to be doing the same, it creates complacency and a blase attitude that if you contract it, 'a couple of paracetamol and a lemsip,' and you'll be fine!! This attitude is causing the rapid spread.
My wife works in a hospital and is seeing the impact this virus is causing herself, it's not all 'older' people dying either! The hospital has had to build another morgue to cope.
I've never seen her literally shaking before, on the way to work, she often phones me in tears during her break, the PPE gear she has to wear is very restricting, hot, uncomfortable and some of her colleagues literally have panic attacks wearing it......
She sees patients with seasonal flu every year and it's no big drama, just business as usual for the NHS......
With this Covid 19 it's the sheer numbers that are getting infected, sure some have mild symptoms but they can still pass it on to others who will get critically ill and that is the problem. Many non essential operations have been cancelled so staff and beds can be provided for Covid 19 patients, there is only so many spare beds, only so many ventilators, only so many oxygen cylinders, masks etc etc
NHS staff are also getting ill and any showing symptoms have to quarantine for 14 days, staffing levels are very low anyway, I suspect some are frightened to come in and just make up a family member has a fever and cough!
If we all do our bit we will get through this.....Stay safe.
 
I do house renovations and right now im reverbing the stable barn

That's permitted under the current rules. (y)

a reasonable excuse includes the need...

(f) to travel for the purposes of work or to provide voluntary or charitable services, where it is not reasonably possible for that person to work, or to provide those services, from the place where they are living;
 
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Why are so many figures being fudged, why are people dying of other things being added to the numbers. (Chloe middleton and many more all reported as covid 19, now found not to have been covid but rarely stated by media). Why the need to lie, if the government, press and media didnt lie and sensationalise so much,
more people would take notice.
Also a lot of people dont trust the new internet regime of censorship. I certainly dont, millions of youtube and fb accounts just shut down because they dont agree with what the mainstream political view is.




You may remember a few weeks ago in March the reports of the deaths 40 Italian doctors which caused a rather large outcry of fear and panic. Well it turns out that all was not as it seems. Whilst death is bad in any situation, I think manipulating figures to suit an obvious agenda is far worse. Now the figures were released on an Italian site FNOM CeO showing the names dob/dod of each of the doctors, however shortly after that page was put up a new page appeared from which you can see obvious discrepancies.*

1st published page archived through way back machine*
portale.fnomceo.it...*

2nd now current published page*
FNOM April*

Notice the changes?? Yes all the dates of birth have been scrubbed from the new page. The old page shows clearly that the doctors who died were all born in the 40's amd 50's ALL aged 70+ ALL retired. Gives a little bit of a different viewpoint of the death rate once the dob figures are removed doesn't it? All the doctors that died were in fact retired and NOT serving doctors on the frontlines*

Now this manipulation of figures & information doesn't stop there. On the 1st April there was a BBC article by Nick Triggle entitled How to understand the death toll*
BBC*

Now on the 21st march the same url shows a different story*
BBC March*

So the BBC published then scrubbed 1 article on the 21st March and replaced it with another on the 1st April both allegedly by the same reporter which in reality means if you bookmarked the story on the 21st March, when you go back to access it, you find a totally different story. Strange*
So if you analyse the 2 stories you will see that certain information that was included in the 21st March story has now been removed. That information was this included underneath the column graph*



Every year more than 500,000 people die in England and Wales: factor in Scotland and Northern Ireland, and the figure tops 600,000. The coronavirus deaths will not be on top of this. Many would be within this "normal" number of expected deaths. In short, they would have died anyway. It was a point conceded by Sir Patrick at a press conference on Thursday when he said there would be "some overlap" between coronavirus deaths and expected deaths - he just did not know how much of an overlap.*



Again, gives a slightly different viewpoint to the 1st April article doesn't it? The 21st March article shows that the coronavirus deaths will not top the usual yearly death rates and are included in those figures, in order to justify the draconian measures currently being implemented. Normally when a news article is updated there is a postcript to say what has changed, there is nothing on that article to say it has been changed at all, and this from the BBC allegedly the most trusted & respected news source worldwide.What the BBC have done is manage the narrative to fit with current Government legislation*

Now the question is, why the figure fudging and information deception? I'm sure there are many more examples here and abroad but why? Could it be to push the immunity certificate legislation? Or perhaps push untried new vaccines which are rumoured will be compulsory to enable you to go back to work? Who is benefiting or will benefit? The same people who benefited in 2009 with the so called "swine flu" which was flu purposefully upgraded by the WHO and made certain sectors very rich with their pills and potions....of course it is Pharmaceutical companies who will be scrambling to sell any new vaccine to very willing Governments is all I can come up with*

May we NOT live in interesting times!*
 
If evidence is needed as to how effective a lockdown can be in containing a virus look at what happened in a village called Eyam - https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-35064071.
This was in 1666 and the heroic actions of the villagers undoubtedly saved the lives of many.
Those who are caught flouting the current lockdown rules should be barred from receiving financial assistance from the State. HM Government is doing what it can to help it's citizens who in turn should be respectful of this and do their "bit".
 
If evidence is needed as to how effective a lockdown can be in containing a virus look at what happened in a village called Eyam - https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-35064071.
This was in 1666 and the heroic actions of the villagers undoubtedly saved the lives of many.
Those who are caught flouting the current lockdown rules should be barred from receiving financial assistance from the State. HM Government is doing what it can to help it's citizens who in turn should be respectful of this and do their "bit".

Not really comparable given how the plague is only spread via infected flea's
But the idea can work
 
I'm recording this. My wife & I watched a similar program on Sky Atlantic. Coronavirus into the red zone, filmed in Italy, harrowing to say the least, emotional viewing.

It’s scary as hell to the people on the front line, as they said in the video, people are having panic attacks just because of the PPE. All the people sat at home who are commenting here about how it’s a silly flu virus or that we should be spreading it to improve herd immunity etc, are nothing more than keyboard warriors without a clue. I’m now resigned to the fact that I will know multiple people to die from this.
 
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