Coronavirus - The Thread :(

[portland_bill]

Telly was on while having lunch.

On came an advert to encourage us to exercise while stuck at home. A close-up of a few carpeted stairs, with a pair of feet, wearing socks, running up and down the stairs. And text to encourage us to keep exercising, but indoors where posible.

So while our NHS is struggling to cope with the virus, let's add some falls to the mix. Pure genius. Made me run cold seeing it.

 

[dave]

insipid Corbyn in lots of eyes would have dithered his way through.

you changed the subject to unions though
corbyn was the same as Harold Wilson, that scared the crap out of the tories and is why it used the right wing media to discredit him and brainwash half the country.
as for the boris letter that was to lighten the mood shown as a joke by the added into the title line

 

[jimboy]

you changed the subject to unions though
corbyn was the same as Harold Wilson, that scared the crap out of the tories and is why it used the right wing media to discredit him and brainwash half the country.
as for the boris letter that was to lighten the mood shown as a joke by the added into the title line

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Your a cherry picker.

 

[Graham2018]

There is a strong hint today that they may be looking to take the country out
of lockdown around 14th april because of all the problems its actually causing .
( cant see it myself ! ) , but I do wonder just how the government can sustain
the financial impact its having . there are still thousands of people ignoring the
advice ( especially with this weather ) ..unless its gonna get worse . I reckon
end of april though for the lockdown to be lifted ?

 

[koalar]

doesn't matter who in government the opposite side always fights against ever decision


wouldn't it make more sense. Especially at times like these is every side pulled in the same direction. Instead of trying to score points.



Moving on. Supermarket staff are in the front line of the estimated 2M British infected with no PPE. We should be thanking everyone that is carrying on and keeping calm on Thursdays.

 

[dave]

We should be thanking everyone that is carrying on and keeping calm on Thursdays.

we do its was for everyone when it started

 

[dave]

wouldn't it make more sense. Especially at times like these is every side pulled in the same direction. Instead of trying to score points.
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now what happens could kill the rich your lot say we should all pull together. when we said we should pull together to stop the poor being killed we were called snowflakes
when all the doctors and nurses were taking their own lives because of the pressures of cuts and having to use food banks we said pull together vote for them the many not the few your lot called us snowflakes,

 

[AndyRKett]

So politics aside and in a deliberate attempt to change the topic, I know of at least one former NHS colleague now in intensive care, I’m not holding my breath that they will survive. I also know of a local paramedic who’s also in ICU. My wife has been working this week and sent a few child off to the children’s intensive care unit.

A paramedic friend of ours who has been diagnosed with it but thankfully not seriously ill, and who works in London tells us people are dying left right and centre, and because of the circumstances little attempt is being made to save them because it’s largely futile....

Yep this is all going super well, honestly I don’t think it would matter who was in charge or how much money you threw at it.

 

[Project 192]

I think our UK government has been slow to react to this crisis, they should have shut schools down much earlier and took other social distancing measures weeks before they did.This lockdown we're under now is not going to show signs of improvement for at least another 14 days.
Also I was very surprised how many flights we were accepting from affected areas before they started to quarantine passengers! Another missed opportunity in my opinion.
Strangely enough the 3 main people in government advising the public how to prevent getting or spreading this virus have all contracted it themselves!

 

[jimboy]

now what happens could kill the rich your lot say we should all pull together. when we said we should pull together to stop the poor being killed we were called snowflakes
when all the doctors and nurses were taking their own lives because of the pressures of cuts and having to use food banks we said pull together vote for them the many not the few your lot called us snowflakes,

So let's recap here. Extreme times, this virus is killing people, we are discussing these bad times on a cornonavirus thread. We should be helping people no matter what, but you on the other hand would not because they belong to the wrong party. As Andy has pointed out it wouldn't make any difference who's in charge or how much money you threw at it, I would agree with that, but you on the other hand have chosen to make this a platform for your political stance.

Lets hope that the people in your household have chosen the right party in your eyes Welcome to the real world indeed.

 

[Bernievarian]

... Strangely enough the 3 main people in government advising the public how to prevent getting or spreading this virus have all contracted it themselves!

Just to be back in the forum's original spirit: isn't that called a "crankshaft kick-back" in mechanic's world ?

BRs and stay well All (left, center, right, even ultra's !!), Bernie

 

[dave]

but you on the other hand would not because they belong to the wrong party.

don't be an idiot that is not what i am saying at all and you know it, What I am saying is people need to accept they voted in a crap government years ago, and should hang their heads in shame for not supporting the nhs back then. i would always take care of others not just when it might affect me. we could be in the same position as Germany now but instead we are a tiny version of the USA.

Germany is proof that not all governments would be the same

 

[DaveMcT]

There is a strong hint today that they may be looking to take the country out
of lockdown around 14th april because of all the problems its actually causing .
( cant see it myself ! ) , but I do wonder just how the government can sustain
the financial impact its having . there are still thousands of people ignoring the
advice ( especially with this weather ) ..unless its gonna get worse . I reckon
end of april though for the lockdown to be lifted ?

Goverment paying salaries is one thing, but business have other significant costs - rent, rates, support services - etc. Business owners are currently funding that with zero govt support and predatory banks. If this thing lasts after April there will be no jobs for people to return to.

We are told this thing is highly infectious, but still do not know the true virility of this virus. We do not know how many have been infected so we don't have a true death rate. The only indication we have is from China where the information is massaged by the CCP for all sorts of ulterior motives. Chinese data is not reliable. Anyone who says things the CCP don't like to hear is dissappeared.

On the other side, seasonal flu killed 50,000 in UK over the last year, yet there is never a lock-down to control flu. We still do not have a true comparison of CCP Bat flu with seasonal flu.

 

[jimboy]

don't be an idiot that is not what i am saying at all and you know it, What I am saying is people need to accept they voted in a crap government years ago, and should hang their heads in shame for not supporting the nhs back then. i would always take care of others not just when it might affect me. we could be in the same position as Germany now but instead we are a tiny version of the USA.

Germany is proof that not all governments would be the same

Who's being an idiot?!! This is not the time for you & your political stance on things.

 

[DaveMcT]

Australian investigations

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKmUxSlOoUE

 

[koalar]

Goverment paying salaries is one thing, but business have other significant costs - rent, rates, support services - etc. Business owners are currently funding that with zero govt support and predatory banks. If this thing lasts after April there will be no jobs for people to return to.

We are told this thing is highly infectious, but still do not know the true virility of this virus. We do not know how many have been infected so we don't have a true death rate. The only indication we have is from China where the information is massaged by the CCP for all sorts of ulterior motives. Anyone who says things the CCP don't like to hear is dissappeared. Chinese data is not reliable. On the other side, seasonal flu killed 50,000 in UK over the last year, yet there is never a lock-down to control flu.

How much data do we need with over 1 million confirmed cases 65k deaths, 45k seriously ill. As people that die outside of hospital or aren't tested for covid-19 the true figures will be much higher.

the biggest difference is the longer incubation period of covid-19 giving a higher basic reproduction number. Without lowering the R0 number hospitals will not have enough beds

I may already have the virus with no symptoms. If I don't observing social distancing I could be unknowingly be passing it on. Potentially filling hospital beds or worse.

It here. It wont be over soon. We all have a part to play.

 

[AndyRKett]

If this thing lasts after April there will be no jobs for people to return to.

You clearly didn’t read my post above, there may not be people to return to those jobs with an attitude like you keep exhibiting here.

I tell you what rather than spending all your time watching videos on YouTube, why don’t you offer your “medical” skills to the front line of the NHS.

Friends, colleagues and family who are working directly with this every day are scared ****less by it! People huffing and puffing about having to stay home is not helping this situation at all!

 

[judderbar]

there may not be people to return to those jobs with an attitude like you keep exhibiting here.

A bit excessive. 80% of people who get covid do not require hospital treatment.

From the Italian data 87% of the dead are over 70

So with no treatment a very high proportion of the work force would be able to return to the work with no social distancing.

500,000 people a year die in the UK in a typical year. That number will not be very much different this year.

 

[chris3234]

Goverment paying salaries is one thing, but business have other significant costs - rent, rates, support services - etc. Business owners are currently funding that with zero govt support and predatory banks. If this thing lasts after April there will be no jobs for people to return to.

We are told this thing is highly infectious, but still do not know the true virility of this virus. We do not know how many have been infected so we don't have a true death rate. The only indication we have is from China where the information is massaged by the CCP for all sorts of ulterior motives. Chinese data is not reliable. Anyone who says things the CCP don't like to hear is dissappeared.

On the other side, seasonal flu killed 50,000 in UK over the last year, yet there is never a lock-down to control flu. We still do not have a true comparison of CCP Bat flu with seasonal flu.

Small business that can claim business rates relief can claim a £10k grant

 

[varesecrazy]

You clearly didn’t read my post above

Friends, colleagues and family who are working directly with this every day are scared ****less by it!

You've said it twice..
And its still true.

Its terrifying people who are used to critical care roles.

A role in which the risks to staff appear to be rising. (For several reasons)