we get it you dont like boris ive never been a tory fan
but god help the country if corbyn was in charge now
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but god help the country if corbyn was in charge now
but god help the country if corbyn was in charge now
you're a joke we couldn't be in any deeper
you can't use "corbyn would have been worse" as an excuse for the crap job Boris is doing now. its boris who got elected, its the Tories that have been cutting funds for the last 10 years,
before that we actually had a Pandemic plan that could have been adapted for this , but its funding was stripped https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/news-...lan-published-europe-uk-pandemic-preparedness
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Get off your socialist high horse, it was Blair that bankrupted the country and we've all been paying for it ever since.
If Corbyn was PM we would now be in the hands of the Chinese or Russians..wake up and smell the roses.
If Corbyn was PM we would now be in the hands of the Chinese or Russians..wake up and smell the roses.
Aye! bloody labour, last time they were in power they took us to the Iraq war when there was no need at all. Between 1997 & 2010 their record with the NHS was abysmal. Bloody labour is it......
I’m not going to argue about the other bits but actually the NHS was treated very well in this period, spending nearly tripled between 97 and 2010. Bought in loads of new staff and equipment, from 2010 onwards they froze pay and cut funding to the bone. I’m sure that labours spending wasn’t always well through out, but it was plentiful and the NHS flourished in this time.
There are different ways at looking at things, Blairs black hole on spending not the best, & in a decade thirty odd thousand beds lost. Both my parents worked in the NHS, my father was a senior nursing officer, my mother a staff nurse, they were always on about the shear waste that was going on. Then again I'm a post code lottery believer, up hear we are not densely populated I have no complaints regarding local Hospital & our surgery, in fact giving our family circumstances, we are very well looked after indeed, but I digress.
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Much fuss is made about David Cameron's financial clampdowns after the 2008 banking collapse, but Gordon Brown was intending to deliver much the same. It begs the question about who really runs the country.
We now have a cocked-up response to the virus, no testing for antibodies and no plan for how we recover when the economy has been trashed. Compare today's lack of progress and avoidance of decision-making by PHE with the Ministry of Agriculture Foot & Mouth outbreak in 2001 and the parallels are frightening. The civil service gets paralysed by its own procedures. Back in 2001 they did not even offer its own advice from the 1967 outbreak. It took the use of army officers to get things moving.
Today we have massive gaps in any sort of planning. Offers of test equipment from research units are still ignored and we are now told it will be the end of April before it's up to speed. Fail to plan for protecting the people or fail to protect the economy and the effect is the same. Huge numbers will die.
Funnily enough the Nightingale hospitals have come together are a fantastic pace. With help from the army.
We now have a cocked-up response to the virus, no testing for antibodies and no plan for how we recover when the economy has been trashed. Compare today's lack of progress and avoidance of decision-making by PHE with the Ministry of Agriculture Foot & Mouth outbreak in 2001 and the parallels are frightening. The civil service gets paralysed by its own procedures. Back in 2001 they did not even offer its own advice from the 1967 outbreak. It took the use of army officers to get things moving.
Today we have massive gaps in any sort of planning. Offers of test equipment from research units are still ignored and we are now told it will be the end of April before it's up to speed. Fail to plan for protecting the people or fail to protect the economy and the effect is the same. Huge numbers will die.
Funnily enough the Nightingale hospitals have come together are a fantastic pace. With help from the army.
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The difference is Labour voters did not stand by blair they made it quite clear they did not agree with him and what he was doing. They had the balls to say this is not what we voted you in for. They did not stand by him when he killed like people stand by the Tories killings. That's why he is known as blue labour and a Tory in disguise,
if you call the good old days abysmal what the hell is it now as its much worse now.Between 1997 & 2010 their record with the NHS was abysmal. Bloody labour is it......
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Yeah it’s me!! It’s all been a bit crazy over the last few days!! Hope everyone is well. It’s been a while since I was on here!!
As a Scot, like others we aint that happy with the Tories or Boris, but we are stuck with them At the moment Labour has/had Corbyn a ditherer & disliked by many. I had a word for him "insipid" So all in all not that great. Corbyn is still trying to gain political points even now when we should all be banding together in a time like this.
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I cant be bothered with politics and i reduced my news watching.
This virus was made to kill regiments,battalions,corps and so on ,someone said this has taken away our freedom and liberty and all the associated issues that come with it have and will take them away for a long time to come
i`m 60 in May and i know there a hell of alot of people much worse off than me because of this crisis
but whoever did this and whatever nationality they are ......... well as they saying goes two wrongs dont make a right ..... but see my last post
This virus was made to kill regiments,battalions,corps and so on ,someone said this has taken away our freedom and liberty and all the associated issues that come with it have and will take them away for a long time to come
i`m 60 in May and i know there a hell of alot of people much worse off than me because of this crisis
but whoever did this and whatever nationality they are ......... well as they saying goes two wrongs dont make a right ..... but see my last post
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its a hoax to cover the imminent financial meltdown. Country and global deaths are no worse than the flu has been for any other previous year.
People are dying WITH Corona, not BECAUSE of Corona. This is important.
Probably many of us have had it without even noticing. A healthy immune system will easilly shun off Corona.
You are being locked down ready for the big announcement - or for when you try, and fail, to use your bank card.. Look outside the mainstream media a little.
It is not the Corona you should fear.
(I wonder with this submission if someone might just decide at this point that this is not the correct forum for these kind of discussions - it has hapenned before on other forums)
People are dying WITH Corona, not BECAUSE of Corona. This is important.
Probably many of us have had it without even noticing. A healthy immune system will easilly shun off Corona.
You are being locked down ready for the big announcement - or for when you try, and fail, to use your bank card.. Look outside the mainstream media a little.
It is not the Corona you should fear.
(I wonder with this submission if someone might just decide at this point that this is not the correct forum for these kind of discussions - it has hapenned before on other forums)
WE are all entitled to our views on here as an open forum, I'm not going to burst your bubble antonio
Perhaps someone else can explain things here.
That's called socialism! that is not what people voted for, people voted for capitalism and everyone for them selves, welcome to democracy
That’s because you drive locally built plastic cars theses days, good to see you’re well, and getting some well deserved recognition.
I’d easily tracked you down as we have common friends on Facebook, mostly the NARS lot. Saw your old Evo abarth In one of your pics, so it couldn’t be anyone else. Are you still YouTubing ?
Erm, you really are in a world of your own, everything's political with you! Extreme times at the moment or have you not noticed? I'm just pointing out at a time like this, you/we should be thinking differently & not stuck in a bubble like you coming away with political statements that don't have any real meaning at the moment.
You remind me of one of those bygone union members, we must stick to the rules no matter what, even if it's really bad for you.
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We are in this mess right now and the NHS have been dropped in the poo, because those tasked with planning for a pandemic screwed up. That's Public Health England PHE. They have stuck to self imposed rigid rules even though from the outset it was clear the assumptions that led to those rules were wrong. The lack of testing and equipment to deliver those test is a prime example.
The British civil service is a fantastic machine for cranking the handle. It's totally crap at thinking out of the box when real emergencies hit and things are not what they pre-ordained. That's why we have the army taking over but they cant run the country.
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politics controls everything, its political decisions that have left the nhs with no kit, its political decisions that turned down a deal with the eu for ventilators.
Its political decisions that did not stop bulk buying before stocks go too low.
Its political decisions that did not get testing and containment done.
Its political decisions that did not make restricted movement clearer sooner.
you cant choose to ignore it when the decisions you made at the poling station are the reason we are in the poopoo and you cant face up the the fact you may have done something wrong
Actually it was in Scotland where the Labour movement started with Kier Hardie, certainly made a huge difference to the the working man, & the party went from strength to strength over the years yes that's fine, I'm certainly not anti Labour, what's not to like about that. It's in recent years where Labour has lost it's way. Here in Scotland the Tories are actually hated, while Labour was never disliked or hated, but lately Labour voters were disappointed.
You seem to assume that I'm anti Labour, your too busy coming up with daft pictures & silly made up letters from Boris to see what I'm meaning. I can't see any party at the moment really getting on top this properly, & that's my point, insipid Corbyn in lots of eyes would have dithered his way through.
