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BMW 1 series ? 177bhp for around 20,000 on a diesel with 60mpg was what i was going to get before my budget got smaller and I got the sporting
I forgot to check em, was just quickly jotting down the mainstream top of the range sports models (like the abarth).... that said, id rather have a Focus ST over a BMW 1 series

BMW are always nice cars though, my brother just got a BMW 3 Series M-Sport Business Edition...

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Do we know it will be 20k? GP Abarth was around 14k, have they really built in 6k of improvements?

We dont, but as the Sporting is 15.5k as standard, then once pimped upto the Abarth level in extras etc (well, the one we've seen) its about 16.5-17k .... add another 3.5k for an Abarth badge, so it makes sense.

As for the price jump, hmm, would of liked the whole range to be alittle bit cheaper but it isn't a waste of money, im still more than happy with my Eleganza, it was certainly a good buy & that was 14.5k (i think).. which was my budget, if I had more id of gone happily gone higher (if sporting had 5 door option.)
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Depends really...

20,000 for the average joe just looking for a car, he'd just get a 1.6 high-end Focus... someone with money & after a rapid car, fan of fiats... im sure he'd seriously consider an Abarth Evo, I have no doubt it'll be a very nice car.

VW Golf GTI - 26,000
Ford Focus ST - 23,000
Astra VXR - 23,000

Theres a quick look at prices of cars in that kind of price range (before extras), personally i would go for Focus ST... but once i see the petrol consumption + tax/insurance on a 2.5 Litre tyre muncher, id be looking at the Abarth Evo, which'll be rapid, fully loaded & cheaper to run all across the board + will be a "unique" car as not many will be sold, also Abarths hold there value pretty well... a Focus ST certainly doesn't.
New Astra VXR's Specced up are 18k max now. Brand new ST3 Focus's are a touch over 20k.

If you are looking at any of those cars then you know what the running costs are and it is highly unlikely you would go for a much slower car in the form of either an AGP or an APE to save a few quid on tyres and petrol.
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There's only 1 i can think of & he isnt very forum active, but he did say it goes like stink & hes happy with it.

That said there's a couple on order & April is the big delivery dates the dealerships have been quoting everyone so one will pop up soon enough!
I have had my evo sporting since 15th March now... Got about 800miles on the clock already and its fanstastic.

My previous car was a 1995 corsa so a bit of a huge jump

Its really good on MPG, providing that you actually drive 'economically' As soon as the turbo kicks in... (usually about 2k rev) it starts to burn alot more fuel. The speed of it is immense and overtaking is so much easier compared to the corsa.

I'm not big on the whole car scene yet so I still have alot to learn. If you have anymore questions, gimme a shout and i'll try help out.

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New Astra VXR's Specced up are 18k max now. Brand new ST3 Focus's are a touch over 20k.

If you are looking at any of those cars then you know what the running costs are and it is highly unlikely you would go for a much slower car in the form of either an AGP or an APE to save a few quid on tyres and petrol.
I took my prices from the websites of Vauxhall / Ford... Vauxhall didnt have any New Astra VXR's listed but i find it extremely hard to believe you can get a New Astra VXR for 18k after i tried to get offers etc on an above average New Astra for 15k and got sent packing, besides that an SRI specced up on website costs 24k, and Brand new Focus ST2 came out at 23k, i didnt check ST3 but i cant imagine it being less .... 2nd hand you'll get an ST3 cheaper than a used Abarth GP though!

i was checking RRP, not deal prices.

And yeah true, but were also talking about performance cars, what in your opinion meets up with a Abarth GP/Evo?... pretty empty market unless your after one of the beasts above.


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I have had my evo sporting since 15th March now... Got about 800miles on the clock already and its fanstastic.

My previous car was a 1995 corsa so a bit of a huge jump

Its really good on MPG, providing that you actually drive 'economically' As soon as the turbo kicks in... (usually about 2k rev) it starts to burn alot more fuel. The speed of it is immense and overtaking is so much easier compared to the corsa.

I'm not big on the whole car scene yet so I still have alot to learn. If you have anymore questions, gimme a shout and i'll try help out.

(I aim to become a more regular forum member :P)

This forums addictive, i came to check on GP T-jets almost a year ago & caught wiff of the Punto Evo coming so i waited... and some how got sucked into the forum big time, now im hooked :P

I love my 105 Eleganza, ive not taken it on the motorway yet but it certainly has enough pull to dust off most traffic & the occasional moron with a dustbin exhaust, I imagine the Sporting is good fun! cant wait to see what remaps are like for both models, apparently the 105 & 135 both benefit well from remapping so far.
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We dont, but as the Sporting is 15.5k as standard, then once pimped upto the Abarth level in extras etc (well, the one we've seen) its about 16.5-17k .... add another 3.5k for an Abarth badge, so it makes sense.
It makes no sense. Where did you get the idea that the Abarth badge is worth 3.5k?

The basic GP Abarth cost only about 1k more than the basic GP Sporting. I'd expect the PE Abarth to also cost only about 1k more than the PE Sporting.

And as you say, the pimping of the Fiat can take it up to greater than the cost of the Abarth.

I'd guess the Abarth would cost nearer 16k.
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I took my prices from the websites of Vauxhall / Ford... Vauxhall didnt have any New Astra VXR's listed but i find it extremely hard to believe you can get a New Astra VXR for 18k after i tried to get offers etc on an above average New Astra for 15k and got sent packing, besides that an SRI specced up on website costs 24k, and Brand new Focus ST2 came out at 23k, i didnt check ST3 but i cant imagine it being less .... 2nd hand you'll get an ST3 cheaper than a used Abarth GP though!

i was checking RRP, not deal prices.

And yeah true, but were also talking about performance cars, what in your opinion meets up with a Abarth GP/Evo?... pretty empty market unless your after one of the beasts above.
I best go and tell all the dealers that i was talking to last month over VXRs and ST3's that they are selling new ones too cheap eh You wouldnt pay RRP on these cars they have been out for a while now and they are very common so they hold no premium.

Corsa VXR, Polo GTI are more comparable matches to the Abarth GP/Evo.
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I best go and tell all the dealers that i was talking to last month over VXRs and ST3's that they are selling new ones too cheap eh You wouldnt pay RRP on these cars they have been out for a while now and they are very common so they hold no premium.

Corsa VXR, Polo GTI are more comparable matches to the Abarth GP/Evo.
Yup, i would :P no wonder they got nailed by the recession if there giving the cars way!

Polo is a heep of plastic **** though, very hard to compare that to the Evo... granted ive not driven the GTI but the one i did drive was an 09, plastic and clunky, more like a go-kart.. had a truly brilliant cup holder though.

Deffo rather have an Abarth Evo than a Polo GTI... Corsa's i just dismiss cause there chick cars (all my sisters + 1 niece had em, buggered if I ever will!)
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Yup, i would :P no wonder they got nailed by the recession if there giving the cars way!

Polo is a heep of plastic **** though, very hard to compare that to the Evo... granted ive not driven the GTI but the one i did drive was an 09, plastic and clunky, more like a go-kart.. had a truly brilliant cup holder though.

Deffo rather have an Abarth Evo than a Polo GTI... Corsa's i just dismiss cause there chick cars (all my sisters + 1 niece had em, buggered if I ever will!)
Vauxhall and Ford havent been nailed by the recession?

GTI wont be plastic **** though and it will handle.

Test drive a VXR arctic, mint cars not girly either
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Vauxhall and Ford havent been nailed by the recession?
Vauxhall is part of GM remember Everyone forgotten how GM went bust already?
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I know but VXL werent the problem it was all their USA brands that put them up sh*ts creek.
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We dont, but as the Sporting is 15.5k as standard, then once pimped upto the Abarth level in extras etc (well, the one we've seen) its about 16.5-17k .... add another 3.5k for an Abarth badge, so it makes sense.

As for the price jump, hmm, would of liked the whole range to be alittle bit cheaper but it isn't a waste of money, im still more than happy with my Eleganza, it was certainly a good buy & that was 14.5k (i think).. which was my budget, if I had more id of gone happily gone higher (if sporting had 5 door option.)
Playing a risky game with the cost of the Evo, a spec'd Sporting costs more than a similar spec Mito.
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Playing a risky game with the cost of the Evo, a spec'd Sporting costs more than a similar spec Mito.
Maybe, though MiTo was an option for me instead of Evo but no matter how often I looked at the pictures i just couldn't let that in my life... has bucked teeth & rosey red arse cheeks.

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Vauxhall and Ford havent been nailed by the recession?

GTI wont be plastic **** though and it will handle.

Test drive a VXR arctic, mint cars not girly either
GTI looks plastic too, though it has a new headunit etc so more gadgetry which adds alot of points for me.. but its still very plastic, maybe Abarth GP... but i still see Evo as a large step forward for interior, though the New Polo ive not seen interior of yet so yeah if that's had the plastic taken out it'll be competition.

VXR Arctic does look nice, I certainly wouldnt mind one of those gimme!
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I read in either autocar/autoexpress, or one of the other motoring mags that the new Abarth Evo is going to be slightly cheaper than a Mito Cloverleaf, but not by much. The Cloverleaf is about 17895 or thereabouts, so the rumour is the Abarth Evo will be about 17000. Then the SS kit will be about another 2 grand on top. (The kit will consist of mainly suspension, brakes, wheels and new bmc air filter i think, as the Abarth Evo comes with the bigger Garrett turbo fitted as standard to the Multiair engine. Not sure if it's got the bigger injectors tho?)

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I read in either autocar/autoexpress, or one of the other motoring mags that the new Abarth Evo is going to be slightly cheaper than a Mito Cloverleaf, but not by much. The Cloverleaf is about 17895 or thereabouts, so the rumour is the Abarth Evo will be about 17000. Then the SS kit will be about another 2 grand on top. (The kit will consist of mainly suspension, brakes, wheels and new bmc air filter i think, as the Abarth Evo comes with the bigger Garrett turbo fitted as standard to the Multiair engine. Not sure if it's got the bigger injectors tho?)

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Hmm, would be nice if thats true... but, hard to believe that an Abarth Evo will cost the same (maybe less) as a fully loaded Sporting
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What does have fully specced sporting have - toys wise - compared to a base/standard spec Abarth Evo? Abarth can't go silly with pricing, because putting it near 20k will put it up against a group of hot hatches that it can't win against. If you had 20k for example, which would you rather have? A standard spec Abarth evo (a great car, don't get me wrong) or a Focus ST-2, or a Golf GTi (used), or a Civic Type R, or an Astra VXR.... the list goes on. The Abarth Evo is aimed at the smaller car class, like the Renaultsport Clio, Seat Ibiza Cupra, Polo GTi, etc - and they're all priced around 18k. Abarth would have to make an Abarth Bravo in order to compete successfully against the Focus, Astra, Civic etc etc....

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