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Does anybody know if esse esse brake discs fit standard callipers?
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Itís ok, I found the answer, No they wonít.

Pretty gutted to be honest, I wanted drilled/grooved.. I canít leave her on the drive whilst I wait for eBay crap. Ended up buying standard Brembo ones.. cost me a small fortune.. but was willing to pay retail on the esseesse ones if they fitted..

I went to jack her up and the trolley jack didnít fit, went to the boot to get the scissor jack.. nothing there but a puncture repair pump and a screw driver. Went to take my wheel off and there was no wheel locking nuts.. ha
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One of those days buddy!

Be very cautious lifting the 500, I like to add a piece of carpet and wood between the body and jack.

Here's some info:

http://www.fiat500usa.com/2018/03/ho...00-abarth.html
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I jacked it up properly, the trolly jack is just there over night, sheís on a axle stand.

I used a scissor jack on the rear, then trolly on the front when raised high enough
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You need a trolley jack with a very low clearance !
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Try Mtec for discs?
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MTEC looked good, but it would probably be Tuesday when they get delivered. I need her back on the ground today.

Iím going to save up and buy second hand Brembo callipers I think,. Christmas soon.
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Absolutely super happy with my new brake pads.
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Are those pads different sizes? Out of interest how much were your Brembo's they are £75 from ECP which isn't too bad?
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The complete job cost me £200 give or take a few pounds,. Including Caliper paint, wd40, brake lube, new disc bolts (m8ís) 37% discount from eurocarparts

The job took me all day, but about 30mins to fit the brakes each side. It was a crap day, wrong pads and rounded off disc nipple bolts.. some clown rounded them and put them back on..

Iíve just spent £50 on h1 and h7 night breaker bulbs to cheer me up.
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Re: Brakes esse esse

My rule of thumb (apart from fit the biggest discs/calipers that you can cram into the wheel) is spend the money on the pads. Then get any cheap discs that you can.

These days there are very few discs that are poorly made, so cracking and warping are pretty unusual if the discs are just half decent... although someone will probably turn up a story of some cheapo made-in-China discs they bought that cost £3.50 and warped after two days driving to the station and back.

The braking force comes mostly from the pads. Modern pads are quite aggressive, containing a lot of metal and/or ceramic that a) grips the disc tighter than a Scotsman holds onto a fiver b) creates a lot of brake dust and c) eats the disc. The old days of gentle pads which used asbestos to pamper the disc and only wear the pad, are over.

Be wary of any disc that reckons it's "low dust". If the pad is doing its thing it will be chewing up the pad material and to a greater extent, the disc too so there's going to be dust. Dust is good.

Look at Ferodo DS2500 for pads. This is a fast road pad. You need to jab it a couple of times as soon as you moved off, to get some temperature in it... but once it's rolling and hot, it does the Scotsman bit admirably. It also doesn't wear so much.. so it must be eating the discs more than the discs is wearing the pad.. hence use cheap(er) discs rather that £800 a corner drilled/slotted/carbon-diamond matrix jobs.

Avoid "race-stuff" pads or anything with a colour in the name. They tend to be very hard to resist track-level temperatures.. so they always run cold, don't slow the car and feel like they're made of wood. They also don't make much dust (see above) mainly because they never warm up unless you drive like a berk (this is the roads we're talking about) all the time and once they are warmed up, they cool down again pretty quickly (since they're designed to not overheat). Freddie Ferodo DS2500 thrashes them.


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And now sheís in for a brake fluid change...
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