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Old 16-04-2013   #1
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CV joint rubber cover leaking

I have probably first issue with A500. At the same day I picked her up from the dealer after covering about 120 km I spotted that there is some grease in the area of left CV joint (the one on the gearbox side). I thought that maybe in factory while mounting CV joints they left by accident some grease on the front suspension frame. So I cleaned it with paper towel and naphtha.

Since this time till today I covered about 1500 km. Today I looked once more in problematic area and again found grease exactly around CV joint (on gearbox, suspension frame etc.). It seems that the metal band on rubber cover is loose and when grease from CV joint is warm enough it goes out of it. Rubber cover itself seems to be OK - there are no cracks on it.

Tomorrow I am going for an engine oil change so I will have Abarth service investigate this problem. Below you will find some photos.
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Re: CV joint rubber cover leaking

Could also be overfilled with grease, which expands when hot and comes out.
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Re: CV joint rubber cover leaking

Hi Gregi, in the absense of a split in the gaiter, your diagnosis of a loose clip would seem to be the most logical answer. Although it is possible that the CV joint was overpacked with grease there is plenty of room for expansion inside the boot itself and if the clip was secure should contain the excess.

Let us know how it goes.
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Although it is possible that the CV joint was overpacked with grease there is plenty of room for expansion inside the boot itself and if the clip was secure should contain the excess.

Let us know how it goes.
Depends how overpacked it is. I've seen numpties *fill* a CV gaiter with grease. You'd expect this not to happen in the factory, but if the grease dispensing machine was having a bad day..
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Re: CV joint rubber cover leaking

Make sure dealer removes boot and refills with correct amount of grease before fitting a new clip. If the grease quantity was correct, it is now not enough, just tightening or replacing the clip will lead to failure later, possibly when out of warranty. Make sure it is done right.

Excess grease is unlikely as this would waste money, so is likely to be very closely controlled at build.
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Excess grease is unlikely as this would waste money, so is likely to be very closely controlled at build.
But you're not actually reading what I'm saying are you? What I'm saying is that it may have been overpacked due to a mistake.
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Fiat never make mistakes though. Oh wait, this is an abarth which is completely different
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Fiat never make mistakes though. Oh wait, this is an abarth which is completely different
Should have bought a German car. They never go wrong.
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But you're not actually reading what I'm saying are you? What I'm saying is that it may have been overpacked due to a mistake.
I appreciate what you say, but manufacturers control costs well. This grease will be dispensed by machine, carefully controlled. Could give insufficient grease if it ran out and the operator didn't notice, but unlikely. I suppose operator could double-dose it if distracted, but difficult to add just a little more, as it will be one-shot, or two-shots. This will be done at the driveshaft manufacturer, not by Fiat or Abarth.
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Mistakes can and do happen everywhere
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They don't really have much grease in them to begin with, all the boots I've done in the past have come as a kit - in the box you get boot, straps (cable ties, metal bands etc) and a sachet of grease. The sachet of grease never seemed enough to me, only barely half-filling the boot.
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OP. Just looking at your pics - for a car that's only covered 1500km, that driveshaft and track rod are looking a bit shabby, might want to slap something on to protect them?
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OP. Just looking at your pics - for a car that's only covered 1500km, that driveshaft and track rod are looking a bit shabby, might want to slap something on to protect them?
Meh, it's the underneath of a car, it rusts and matters very little.
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Meh, it's the underneath of a car, it rusts and matters very little.
It's well worth greasing the threads on the track rod; it will be much appreciated by whoever next adjusts your tracking .
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It's well worth greasing the threads on the track rod; it will be much appreciated by whoever next adjusts your tracking .
It may also ease the pain on your wallet next time you need the tracking adjusted.
If they can't crack the nut to adjust the tracking, they might spend ages trying (which will cost) or simply tell you it can't be done & that you need a new rod (because they tried & bent the rod!) - either way, a few penn'orth of grease might save many pounds down the line
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