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It may also ease the pain on your wallet next time you need the tracking adjusted.
If they can't crack the nut to adjust the tracking, they might spend ages trying (which will cost) or simply tell you it can't be done & that you need a new rod (because they tried & bent the rod!) - either way, a few penn'orth of grease might save many pounds down the line
Call me silly, but a tie rod end for a 500 is so cheap that to me it doesn't warrant jacking up the front of the car and greasing it up. Just personal opinion of course
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Re: CV joint rubber cover leaking

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I appreciate what you say, but manufacturers control costs well. This grease will be dispensed by machine, carefully controlled. Could give insufficient grease if it ran out and the operator didn't notice, but unlikely. I suppose operator could double-dose it if distracted, but difficult to add just a little more, as it will be one-shot, or two-shots. This will be done at the driveshaft manufacturer, not by Fiat or Abarth.
Your logic makes no sense. You're saying that the Oetiker band clip wasn't tightened fully (and therefore a mistake was made), yet it's impossible that too much grease was put in?

What I'm saying is, check it all.
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Call me silly, but a tie rod end for a 500 is so cheap that to me it doesn't warrant jacking up the front of the car and greasing it up. Just personal opinion of course
Oh yes, the END is less than £15 - but then there is the fitting - remember, if the 'old' one is rusted on tight...
I had that problem recently, couldn't get the tracking sorted as the tyre place couldn't crack the nut. Ended up taking the whole rod out & buying a new one (that's the end plus the rod). Even off the motor, no amount of heat & forcing would shift it.
Cost me a damned sight more than a handful of grease.
But hey, if you've got money to burn & over half a day to waste - not to mention being without your motor while it gets sorted...
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Re: CV joint rubber cover leaking

Indeed.


(excuse the jaunty angle, an iPhone photo that always ends up in different orientation when uploaded)

An Audi A3 tie rod a week ago, the inner balljoint had died before the outer (unusual), but not being wasteful, I didn't buy the outer, until I realised the old one wasn't going to come off the old tie rod.

Grease on the exposed threads isn't going to help this though, you need to put anti seize compound on the threads before you screw the outer joint on.
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Re: CV joint rubber cover leaking

Exactly why I got rack ends when I had the front end of the Subaru rebushed and all the tie rod ends, balljoints and so on replaced.

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Oh yes, the END is less than £15 - but then there is the fitting - remember, if the 'old' one is rusted on tight...
I had that problem recently, couldn't get the tracking sorted as the tyre place couldn't crack the nut. Ended up taking the whole rod out & buying a new one (that's the end plus the rod). Even off the motor, no amount of heat & forcing would shift it.
Cost me a damned sight more than a handful of grease.
But hey, if you've got money to burn & over half a day to waste - not to mention being without your motor while it gets sorted...
I get what you're saying, I really do, but the risk/reward balance is one that I'm comfortable with. One of these days I'm actually going to buy myself a set of wishbones, tie rod ends, rack ends and all the wearing bits in the suspension and just have them sitting on the shelf waiting for the day when they might be needed, or when I fancy taking the car back to that factory fresh feeling
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Re: CV joint rubber cover leaking

Bottom line is, the whole tie rod and end for the Audi cost £32 (for Lemforder - which is effectively genuine). So worst of the worst, you bin the lot and replace it. Not worth messing about with.

Then you assemble it properly with anti seize compound on the threads within the rod end.
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Bottom line is, the whole tie rod and end for the Audi cost £32 (for Lemforder - which is effectively genuine). So worst of the worst, you bin the lot and replace it. Not worth messing about with.

Then you assemble it properly with anti seize compound on the threads within the rod end.
The silly thing is that we're talking about tie rods/rack ends and you know what? Fiat don't even sell them for the 500, you have to buy the whole bloody rack!

Doesn't mean you can't get them elsewhere though!

http://seekpart24.com/lemfoerder/axi...00198&at=19093

http://seekpart24.com/trw/axial-join...00198&at=19093

http://seekpart24.com/febi/axial-joi...00198&at=19093
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Yep. TRW will be OE as it's a Delphi rack/column.
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Yep. TRW will be OE as it's a Delphi rack/column.
Yup, I remember when I changed a co-workers flat tyre for them on their Ka, it had TRW tie rod ends on it. Think only a few people have had issues with them on here so doubt they'll be a big problem area. Top mounts and wishbones however......
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Oh yes, the END is less than £15 - but then there is the fitting - remember, if the 'old' one is rusted on tight...
I had that problem recently, couldn't get the tracking sorted as the tyre place couldn't crack the nut. Ended up taking the whole rod out & buying a new one (that's the end plus the rod). Even off the motor, no amount of heat & forcing would shift it.
Cost me a damned sight more than a handful of grease.
But hey, if you've got money to burn & over half a day to waste - not to mention being without your motor while it gets sorted...
True enough Hell, I'm the sort of person who is probably going to go out and buy a rack end and both tie rod ends and have them sitting at home waiting till they're needed
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Hell, I'm the sort of person who is probably going to go out and buy a rack end and both tie rod ends and have them sitting at home waiting till they're needed
Your wife must love you very much then My husband can barely tolerate a set of wheels in the garage!
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Let us know how it goes.
After engine oil change Abarth service had a look at this problematic rubber cover. It seems that during assembly process in a factory there was some grease left between CV joint and rubber - exactly in a place where metal band holds it to beginning of CV joint. They also clamped metal band tighter so this should help. I have to observe it so we will see if it leaks in a few hundred kilometers.
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They also clamped metal band tighter so this should help. I have to observe it so we will see if it leaks in a few hundred kilometers.
After clamping metal band the grease was still going out so I booked another service visit. Today they changed rubber cover and both metal bands. It seems that the problem is finally solved
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