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Hi All,

I am considering returning to Fiat ownership having replaced my Panda Cross with a Honda CR-V MK2 a few years back. I'm quite attracted to the 2L 4x4 500X but the Honest John fuel economy figures, supposedly from owners, are pretty shocking compared to the figures quoted by Fiat. I expect the manufacturer figures to be off a bit but it seems that the figures for the 500X are off by at least 30% which is huge and would make the car less efficient than a 13 year old, heavier, 2.2L CR-V.

Do any 500X 4x4 owners on here have feedback as to how their fuel economy really is?
 
Just get the auto, then your real mpg is only 20% down rather than circa 30%. :)

From my experience as an owner and from what I've read expect high 30's to high 40's mpg. If you want more then go for the 1.6.
 
Hi DC, welcome to the forum. Well done for researching this issue, lots of people believe the manufacturer's quoted mpg figures, then complain when they get nowhere near them. As you probably know, for most cars the obsolescent NEDC test figure is quoted, which gives unrealistic results. Hopefully when the migration to the new WLTP cycle is complete, the situation will improve.

Meanwhile, my MA 140 2wd manual petrol returns around the HJ figure of 35mpg in my normal running - fairly short trips but little sitting in traffic. On a decent run I get 42. The NEDC average is 47.

Hope this is useful.
 
My Wifes' 1.6 MJ Cross Plus gives about low 40's around town - best yet is 45MPG. Yet to do a long distance drive but I would expect over 60MPG....... The 2.0 4x4 is only available as an Auto.
 
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Nello said:
My Wifes' 1.6 MJ Cross Plus gives about low 40's around town - best yet is 45MPG. Yet to do a long distance drive but I would expect over 60MPG....... The 2.0 4x4 is only available as an Auto.
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Can you get away with doing that and not clogging up the DPF? I do some town driving but then do a long trip every couple of months to clear it out. Great mpg by the way.

The 2.0 manual seems to have been dropped along with the latest changes, just looked online and there is an 18 reg for sale.
 
I have a 66 plate 2ltr Diesel Manual 140bhp 4x4, I regularly get mpg figures in the mid to high 40's, of course better on Long Motorway driving than on Rush Hour Traffic..

Done 15k miles now from new, and economy gets better as the engine wears in more.
 
Much envy! :yuck: 22 MPG on average here. I understand that Americans don't care much about fuel consumption, but still, a crazy figure for a modern 2.4 petrol engine. We get a lot of used US cars here in Lithuania, but I've never seen anything quite so fuel-hungry in this displacement range. Way to go, Chrysler!

Sorry for the rant, these fuel consumption threads always rile me up. :D
 
distantcamera said:
Hi All,



I am considering returning to Fiat ownership having replaced my Panda Cross with a Honda CR-V MK2 a few years back. I'm quite attracted to the 2L 4x4 500X but the Honest John fuel economy figures, supposedly from owners, are pretty shocking compared to the figures quoted by Fiat. I expect the manufacturer figures to be off a bit but it seems that the figures for the 500X are off by at least 30% which is huge and would make the car less efficient than a 13 year old, heavier, 2.2L CR-V.



Do any 500X 4x4 owners on here have feedback as to how their fuel economy really is?
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I've got a 15 plate 2.0 140bhp 4x4 auto and I regularly get mid 40s mpg with a lifetime best for a single tankful of 51mpg. On a long motorway trip I would be disappointed to get less than 47mpg. If you can arrange it, take a 24 hour test drive. I covered about 200 miles in my test drive and checked the consumption when I took it back
 
Get mid to high 30’s on my daily across country route use!? Best so far was 47 mpg on trip to East Anglia which is full of Spec’s camera and sat at 69 most of the way!
Worst was sat in traffic air con on and stop start off - mid 20’s, oh well not the most fuel efficient car but does anyone use Supreme Derv or just normal stuff?!? Is it worth the extra 12 pence a litre?!?
 
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Alex4x4 said:
Get mid to high 30’s on my daily across country route use!? Best so far was 47 mpg on trip to East Anglia which is full of Spec’s camera and sat at 69 most of the way!
Worst was sat in traffic air con on and stop start off - mid 20’s, oh well not the most fuel efficient car but does anyone use Supreme Derv or just normal stuff?!? Is it worth the extra 12 pence a litre?!?
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My average is much better than that.

I never turn the Aircon off

I never turn the Stop/Start on

I use the more expensive Shell diesel almost every fill. I find that I get slightly better consumption but use it mainly for the additives keeping the engine clean. I am happy to pay the extra, I look upon it as a tradeoff

The auto is slightly more fuel-efficient than the manual supposedly.
 
I think the opening poster needs to decide whether they want a 4wd or not. If they do then there will always be extra weight vs a 2wd even if 4wd is not engaged that often.

On the good side is they really do want 4wd, the 500x is about the cheapest out there nearly new so unless they are doing really high mileage this cheaper purchase price should offset slightly higher fuel consumption.

I'm going to do about 4,000 miles in my first year of ownership, overall I could hardly care less if my mpg is 37mpg (which is is atm), or 45mpg+ like some are getting. It's only £100 - £150 a year difference.
 
Just got back from a 600 mile drive over the space of a week.

Went to Lancashire via the M1/ M62 and in the hot weather had climate control on for the whole journey up, yet the average was 49mpg. Then did 100+ miles of small trips up there before the run back down, and the overall average was 45mpg.

Very happy with that, not sure if it's the hot weather that helps or if it's because the engine is a bit looser after 3,500 miles.

Whilst I was up north I took it for a service, sub £200 for a full service (major plus a fair few more things) is probably £150 less than it would have been in the London area. As the car is now 18 months old I think I'll save the next service for late 2019 when I have the MOT done. By that time I think I'll be on around 10,000 miles. As they take all the wheels off when serviced I think I'll ask them to swap back and front to try and get 20k miles out of the tyres.
 
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Just got back from a 600 mile drive over the space of a week.

Went to Lancashire via the M1/ M62 and in the hot weather had climate control on for the whole journey up, yet the average was 49mpg. Then did 100+ miles of small trips up there before the run back down, and the overall average was 45mpg.

Very happy with that, not sure if it's the hot weather that helps or if it's because the engine is a bit looser after 3,500 miles.

Whilst I was up north I took it for a service, sub £200 for a full service (major plus a fair few more things) is probably £150 less than it would have been in the London area. As the car is now 18 months old I think I'll save the next service for late 2019 when I have the MOT done. By that time I think I'll be on around 10,000 miles. As they take all the wheels off when serviced I think I'll ask them to swap back and front to try and get 20k miles out of the tyres.
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Those figures are more or less in line with mine, and probably represent a realistic, achievable average. I tried a short, dual carriageway, journey in Sport Mode last week and the consumption rose to 39 mpg, but can't claim that is typical
 
TrevC said:
Hi DC, welcome to the forum. Well done for researching this issue, lots of people believe the manufacturer's quoted mpg figures, then complain when they get nowhere near them. As you probably know, for most cars the obsolescent NEDC test figure is quoted, which gives unrealistic results. Hopefully when the migration to the new WLTP cycle is complete, the situation will improve.

Meanwhile, my MA 140 2wd manual petrol returns around the HJ figure of 35mpg in my normal running - fairly short trips but little sitting in traffic. On a decent run I get 42. The NEDC average is 47.

Hope this is useful.
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I was thinking how many cars have a full size wheel or a space saver?!
The extra weight, would it make much difference to the mpg?!?
Fiat like others seems to record very Optimistic Figures, when it comes to mpg. I wonder if they had anything in the boot or perhaps even dumped the gel kit n pump!?!
Guess if ur running the 4WD / AWD then it shouldn’t be surprising that mpg isn’t as good as 2WD on a normal run despite de-coupling in Auto mode!
 
I don't believe any have a full size spare, even with the spacesaver I have the boot floor is raised to the max position.

Even if the 4WD ain't running it still adds weight, I read somewhere it's about 180kgs combined extra for the ZF9 and 4WD, think it was approx 110kg/ 70kg split but can't remember which is which.
 
My answer to the original question is with my 2L 4x4 auto the average mpg over 30000 miles of mixed ( motorway, town, and A roads) is 37.5 mpg. Mainly auto used, manual selection when we had snow. Then very occasionally sport mode.
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Not going off subject completely, but found in Trip ‘ Best mpg’ menu. I have re set but it has stayed blank since?!? Does anyone know how this works/cycles as nothing in the manual!?
Oh since I have changed tyres better mpg!!
 
Alex4x4 said:
Not going off subject completely, but found in Trip ‘ Best mpg’ menu. I have re set but it has stayed blank since?!? Does anyone know how this works/cycles as nothing in the manual!?
Oh since I have changed tyres better mpg!!
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I THINK that it will take a few resets of Menu A and then your 'Best mpg' value will recalculate. My 'best' is 51.1 mpg so I'm leaving it there, I doubt I'll better that [emoji23][emoji23]
 
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