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I am in the process of buying a 500 X AWD 2.0 Cross Plus MJ second hand 2016 plate, front tyres down to last 2-3 mm, I usually change at 3mm!
I notice on here that somebody mentioned that you shouldnít have a big disparity in mm between front and rears?!
Question is do I replace all four or get dealer to pay for front, I pay for the rears?!?
I was looking at Michelin Cross-climates+ but ouch at @ £150-00 a quarter!!
Has anyone had issues feedback with these!
Also looking at Verdestien Quatrack 5, cheaper but more of a traditional all season tyre?!?
Any thoughts anyone??
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I have the same model. My rears are on 28k and still 5mm or more left. I'm on the second set of fronts, the first lasted about 15-17k. Not a simple situation
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Hmmm I guess it would be an idea to rotate tyres front to back and therefore even out wear!?!
Have you tried the Michelin Cross Climates +???
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Hmmm I guess it would be an idea to rotate tyres front to back and therefore even out wear!?!
Absolutely.

Those using different sets for winter/summer seasons, like me, should mark the front wheels for storage and then swap them during the next seasonal replacement with the rear ones.
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Hmmm I guess it would be an idea to rotate tyres front to back and therefore even out wear!?!
Have you tried the Michelin Cross Climates +???


Not at that price, plus my local tyre depot doesn't have them for 18" rims
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I have the same model. My rears are on 28k and still 5mm or more left. I'm on the second set of fronts, the first lasted about 15-17k. Not a simple situation
Thanks for this. I think I might swap over front and back then at approx 10k miles. That way i should get 20k miles out of the set before needing to replace.
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Regarding the effect of different tread depths on the 4WD system, I'm not sure if the Fiat's system is susceptible to this. I think it's to do with the centre diff on some systems. A bit of searching on the Honest John website should provide more info.
As I've mentioned, we have Cross-Climates on our other car. After about 10,000 miles, the fronts still have over 5mm of tread, the rears just over 6mm, which is pretty good. They are noticeably quieter than the original Continentals, and smooth the ride slightly. The big revelation was in the recent snow, where traction, cornering and braking were all far better than I've experienced, having never tried winter tyres.
Cross-Climates are now available in the 225/45 R18 size for my 500X, and I shall be investing in a set when the Goodyears need replacing, despite the expense. I want the all year round improvement in noise and ride, and the extra winter grip is a real bonus if it snows. They are probably still cheaper than buying a set of winter tyres and wheels, and avoid the inconvenience of swapping and storing.
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Regarding the effect of different tread depths on the 4WD system, I'm not sure if the Fiat's system is susceptible to this. I think it's to do with the centre diff on some systems. A bit of searching on the Honest John website should provide more info.
As I've mentioned, we have Cross-Climates on our other car. After about 10,000 miles, the fronts still have over 5mm of tread, the rears just over 6mm, which is pretty good. They are noticeably quieter than the original Continentals, and smooth the ride slightly. The big revelation was in the recent snow, where traction, cornering and braking were all far better than I've experienced, having never tried winter tyres.
Cross-Climates are now available in the 225/45 R18 size for my 500X, and I shall be investing in a set when the Goodyears need replacing, despite the expense. I want the all year round improvement in noise and ride, and the extra winter grip is a real bonus if it snows. They are probably still cheaper than buying a set of winter tyres and wheels, and avoid the inconvenience of swapping and storing.


My wife has a 2014 Panda 4x4on OE Conti Winter Contacts , very impressive in the snow and ice!! I think an All Season tyre will make a difference, I noticed it was a specified option on new cars now according to the brochure!
Likewise my pocket is saying £600-00 for a set of Michelin Crossclimate + will hurt, if dealer contributes then it may be be worthwhile!! The OE are Michelin Sports on there!!
Thanks for the advice!! I am still wondering about the Quatrac 5?
But not sure if anyone has taken the plunge??
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I'm going for Cross Climates when next Autumn arrives..............Have learnt in the past never to skimp on rubber.
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Dealer wonít budge, not surprised!! In that case as itís going into Summer I may hold off then order at Summers end!! Tyres have some life left at front3-4 mm about 5mm at back!! Think they are OE Michelin Pilot Sport 3ís.
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Do a front/rear swap to eke out more life and even up wear, then go for the Cross-Climates in the autumn when you've saved up!
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Will do, as per conversation of rotating tyres, somewhere on here!!??
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Do a front/rear swap to eke out more life and even up wear, then go for the Cross-Climates in the autumn when you've saved up!


Do you think price of Michelin Cross Climates will drop come summer?? Being a summer biased all season tyre I wonder!!
Some companies are charging ver the odds for hem but I guess itís supply & demand! They def seem to be the right tyres for this car especially present weather conditions!!
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I've no idea, although as you say market forces could be at work! When you are getting ready to change, it's worth keeping an eye out for offers, as Michelin often have promotions which reduce prices.

Regarding tyre rotation, if the tyres are directional (which the Cross-Climates are, for instance) you can obviously only swap them front-rear, not side-side. There will be markings on the sidewall showing direction of rotation.
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I've no idea, although as you say market forces could be at work! When you are getting ready to change, it's worth keeping an eye out for offers, as Michelin often have promotions which reduce prices.

Regarding tyre rotation, if the tyres are directional (which the Cross-Climates are, for instance) you can obviously only swap them front-rear, not side-side. There will be markings on the sidewall showing direction of rotation.


Here is a question?!? Can you mix Summer/All Season tyres a- bit not on same axel!
Oh I found out that apparently prices usually are cheaper in Sept/October for these?! Not sure if anyone else has experienced that!!
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Here is a question?!? Can you mix Summer/All Season tyres a- bit not on same axel!
Oh I found out that apparently prices usually are cheaper in Sept/October for these?! Not sure if anyone else has experienced that!!


I very much doubt it but if in doubt ask an MOT Tester
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