Hi Guys,

Some tit in a huge Range Rover pulled out around some parked cars on a narrow road and driving down the wrong side of the road smashed the black plastic lower front end of my 500l wing mirror. They then drove off. It was dark and I didn't get the plate. My dashcam wasn't on . I had a quote to repair it based on a photo but when I took it in they said the hole is to big to repair.

Looking at a copy part on eBay for £65:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fiat-500L...=Car+Make:Fiat|Model:500L&hash=item27ed8fb19e

Has anyone tried removing a 500L wing mirror?

I assume the cosmetic cover around the mirror adjust joystick simply pulls off and then there are ~3 bolts to undo and a molex or equiv. connector to disconnect?

The body coloured cover is OK, <1cm hairline crack, might super glue it from behind and then touch up on the front.

Thanks for any tips in changing this

Re: Door mirror removal.

Swines

I suspect it'll probably involve removing the internal door card to release the electrical plug if nothing else.

Oh and its a door mirror btw, not been wing mounted for a long while

500L said:

Hi Guys,

Some tit in a huge Range Rover pulled out around some parked cars on a narrow road and driving down the wrong side of the road smashed the black plastic lower front end of my 500l wing mirror. They then drove off. It was dark and I didn't get the plate. My dashcam wasn't on . I had a quote to repair it based on a photo but when I took it in they said the hole is to big to repair.

Looking at a copy part on eBay for £65:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fiat-500L-Hatchback-12-14-Electric-Heated-Wing-Mirror-Right-/171489341854?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3AFiat%7CModel%3A500L&hash=item27ed8fb19e

Has anyone tried removing a 500L wing mirror?

I assume the cosmetic cover around the mirror adjust joystick simply pulls off and then there are ~3 bolts to undo and a molex or equiv. connector to disconnect?

The body coloured cover is OK, <1cm hairline crack, might super glue it from behind and then touch up on the front.

Thanks for any tips in changing this

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This other eBay item shows both the connector (though on the other side) and at least one threaded hole to accept a bolt and there will I guess be more. We have never had cause to remove ours but your description sounds about right to me. That would be the method I have used on other vehicles certainly.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fiat-500L...6&pid=100005&rk=4&rkt=6&sd=171489341854&rt=nc

Yea here is a better photo:

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/~twAAOSwv1RUZiLV/$_57.JPG

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/39cAAOSw1-RUZiLK/$_57.JPG

Just not sure about removing the joystick or not, I'm thinking probably not as there's nothing to pull on apart from the knob itself and it's bezel doesn't have anything you could twist with any tool. Just don't want to pull too hard on the cover if the joystick is supposed to be off first.

Doesn't look from the above photo that the door card needs to come off (luckily).

I'll try pulling on the cover tomorrow if it stops snowing. Want to see behind that judge if it's easy enough then I'll order the copy mirror. I may go for the S4P OEM but may as well save money as I only have the car for another month.

Here's the damage, if it wasn't cold the plastic might not have been as brittle and I might have got away with it:

If anyone else is looking for a 500L wing mirror don't use that eBay seller I linked to, they don't have any.. they sent me a 500 mirror assembly

Looks like it will have to be S4P, even more money

Re: DOOR mirror removal.

500L said:

If anyone else is looking for a 500L wing mirror don't use that eBay seller I linked to, they don't have any.. they sent me a 500 mirror assembly

Looks like it will have to be S4P, even more money

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Whats an assembly

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Most Easterly Pandas said:

Whats an assembly

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Errr it's a name for the collective components making up a door mirror isn't it?

Re: DOOR mirror removal.

MJG said:

Errr it's a name for the collective components making up a door mirror isn't it?

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So is this not what is required then? Seems not.....

EDIT: Just realised, its 500 not 500L part :bang:

Most Easterly Pandas said:

EDIT: Just realised, its 500 not 500L part :bang:

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But you asked what an 'assembly' was which I answered so am curious as to why you 'disliked' my clarification/explanation.

MJG said:

But you asked what an 'assembly' was which I answered so am curious as to why you 'disliked' my clarification/explanation.

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Dislike now removed, was due to me not reading it correctly and not seeing it was a 500 mirror assembly that had been sent, and not a 500L one. Thats what threw me as I thought originally sure correct part must have been sent, if its not the assembly what is the OP after, but then realised it was one for the wrong car that was sent.

Most Easterly Pandas said:

Dislike now removed, was due to me not reading it correctly and not seeing it was a 500 mirror assembly that had been sent, and not a 500L one. Thats what threw me as I thought originally sure correct part must have been sent, if its not the assembly what is the OP after, but then realised it was one for the wrong car that was sent.

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Fair enough - I've reciprocated and removed mine.

I could write a quick guide on changing the wing mirror, anyone interested/should I bother?

Not that I need one,hopefully,but a helpfull guide is always welcome,in my opinion...So,please,do write

500L said:

I could write a quick guide on changing the wing mirror, anyone interested/should I bother?

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Cheers, it would be appreciated.

1) Remove triangular cover around adjust joystick. I used a 12" plastic ruler, there is one fastening at the top and one at the bottom, so stick the ruler in all the way until you hit these then pull towards you (don't lever). Disconnect the joystick and you are left with this:



Curse FIAT for hiding the connector and a bolt just behind the top of the door card :bang:



2) Remove the tweeter grille. So that you don't damage the grille use a very small allen key and hook the end over the left hand side of the grille and pull towards you, when this side is disengaged use your hands to gently pull it off.



Just behind the left hand side of the door handle is a cap head machine screw, remove this as it's holding the door card on.

3) Next thing to remove is the switch unit. Remove the screw cover in the handle / "ash tray" and undo the cap head machine screw. Place a piece of thin card on the faux leather so that you don't damage it, put your 12 ruler on top and get both in under the back and sides of the back (near the handle) of the switch unit and pull it up slightly. There is one fastener at the front (LHS on below photo), two opposite each other near the front window switches and another pair slightly further back. The two further back IIRC pull out and the front pair and the single in front of the switch unit are latched so you need to push these in with the head of your small allen key and they disengage. You can tell which these are by pulling the switch unit up slightly and seeing if you see some flat shiny metal - these are the type that need pushing in to disengage. Pull out the switch unit gently and disconnect the connector, you are left with this:



3) Kneel down and you will see two cap head screws to undo where the switch unit was, you can just see them at the top of the hole in the above photo.

4) Undo the 2 phillips screws on the right of the door card.

5) Starting on the left or right hand side near the bottom get your 12" ruler underneath the door card and pop out a barbed plastic fastner. Once you get one you can pull out the rest by pulling the door card with your hands (marigolds recommended so your fingers don't hurt). At this stage a bodyshop would be using a big flat blade screwdriver and scratching your door. It can be done by hand.

6) Once the barbed fastenings are pulled out slightly raise the door card and disengage it off the inside of the window scraper. Holding the card on with your knees, leave a small gap and disconnect the tweeter cable and door handle cable. Remove the door card. Looks like this now:









7) Disconnect the electrical connection to the door mirror. Holding onto the mirror undo the two bolts holding the mirror on and change the mirror.



8) Reverse the process and it should soon look like this again:





9) Remove the body coloured cover from the old mirror and put it on the new mirror.

10) Lunch time