Technical 500 noise in neutral

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Technical 500 noise in neutral

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Chaps I’ve done a search on this but as usual in unclear on what I’ve read!

When at lights ect I slip into neutral and I’m getting a churning grumbling noise when my foot off the clutch....

I’ve seen in another thread I may need to check the oil? Is this the regular oil as mine in fine or is there separate oil for gear box?

Or is it possible something is worn?

As always advice appreciated [emoji6]
 
Hi,
Gearbox oil in your car is separate to engine oil.
Transmission oil (I'm going to call it transmission oil rather than gearbox oil)
Is often different to engine oil.
I would say it is worth checking the level of transmission oil.
Definately worth putting your car on ramps so you can check the gearbox for leaks. Check where driveshafts enter gearbox and generally all round.
Best wishes
Jack
 
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Hi,
Gearbox oil in your car is separate to engine oil.
Transmission oil (I'm going to call it transmission oil rather than gearbox oil)
Is often different to engine oil.
I would say it is worth checking the level of transmission oil.
Definately worth putting your car on ramps so you can check the gearbox for leaks. Check where driveshafts enter gearbox and generally all round.
Best wishes
Jack



Thank you where do I check transmission oil is it under the clutch slave? Or am I in a different place? No noticeable leaks been under car a few times all looks ok
 
Mk 2 punto section..

I will find a link

Basically an oil drain plug looking thing

Front edge of gearbox

On level ground ..
Wind out plug

Insert the allen key partially into the hole..

Angle it down..
withdraw it.. there should be oil on the key

(Technically should be level with the hole)
But the key works as a dipstick ;)
 
IMG_5044.JPG is this the correct oil to use? Also would you fully drain or just top up?
 
From the manuals the full amount is 1.8 liters. If you open one plug anyway and don't know the history of your gearbox, it's worth doing a full change. You can have a look at what else besides oil comes out :yuck:

Always open the filler plug first before you open the drain plug (I had a nasty fight with a filler plug on another car once and was glad I hadn't drained the oil before I had won that battle).;)

Filling is usually a messy job, you need a squeeze bottle or a funnel with a hose or something similar to get the stuff in. Be prepared for oil stains from overflow when filling.:yuck:

API GL 4 and 75W-80 is normally a good choice.
 
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When at lights ect I slip into neutral and I’m getting a churning grumbling noise when my foot off the clutch....

Or is it possible something is worn?

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That to me sounds like that's the clutch release/thrust bearing.
Yes it's worn.

When you put you foot down on the clutch, the master cylinder pushes fluid to operate the slave cylinder.

The slave pushes on an arm or fork in between the gearbox and clutch pressure plate that actuates the release/thrust bearing.

This release/thrust bearing pushes on the diaphragm fingers of the pressure plate, releasing the tension on the friction plate underneath it to allow it to slip.

As the pressure plate is bolted to the engines flywheel, it constantly spins with the engine so the release/thrust bearing has to spin with it, which is why it's a bearing.

It looks like a small doughnut and fits over the gearbox's input shaft and usually comes as part of a clutch kit.
You can see it here, left to right are the release/thrust bearing, pressure plate, friction plate
https://www.shop4parts.co.uk/?name=store&op=Product&ProdID=26898

It's not uncommon for them to wear and chatter or rattle with your foot off the clutch, the balls inside have started to wear.

It tends to stop chattering when you press the pedal down as you're forcing it into the pressure plate.

It's more of an annoying problem than a driveability problem as they seem to last for a while in this state, though the clutch pedal may become heavy if the bearings starts to jam or can't spin as fast as the pressure plate.

There's no easy fix, it's a gearbox out job and you really want to change the whole clutch while you're at it, so most live with it until it's time for a new clutch.

What the mileage on you car?
 
That to me sounds like that's the clutch release/thrust bearing.

Yes it's worn.



When you put you foot down on the clutch, the master cylinder pushes fluid to operate the slave cylinder.



The slave pushes on an arm or fork in between the gearbox and clutch pressure plate that actuates the release/thrust bearing.



This release/thrust bearing pushes on the diaphragm fingers of the pressure plate, releasing the tension on the friction plate underneath it to allow it to slip.



As the pressure plate is bolted to the engines flywheel, it constantly spins with the engine so the release/thrust bearing has to spin with it, which is why it's a bearing.



It looks like a small doughnut and fits over the gearbox's input shaft and usually comes as part of a clutch kit.

You can see it here, left to right are the release/thrust bearing, pressure plate, friction plate

https://www.shop4parts.co.uk/?name=store&op=Product&ProdID=26898



It's not uncommon for them to wear and chatter or rattle with your foot off the clutch, the balls inside have started to wear.



It tends to stop chattering when you press the pedal down as you're forcing it into the pressure plate.



It's more of an annoying problem than a driveability problem as they seem to last for a while in this state, though the clutch pedal may become heavy if the bearings starts to jam or can't spin as fast as the pressure plate.



There's no easy fix, it's a gearbox out job and you really want to change the whole clutch while you're at it, so most live with it until it's time for a new clutch.



What the mileage on you car?



Mileage is 41599
 
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