Technical Twinair P1120 after coolant leak repairs

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Technical Twinair P1120 after coolant leak repairs

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62 plate Twinair Dualogic 55k miles

Hi, first post here but I've browsed a fair amount.

This bit might be a bit long winded but might be some relevant information.

I noticed the car had a slow coolant leak right after it's first service after it was bought. I bought 10l of coolant and didn't get time to fix it so just kept topping it up. After a few months I had time to have a look and saw pink coolant running down the front of the engine. Thought it would be a quick thermostat/water pump replacement but after booking it in to an independent garage, they told me it was more serious and was coming from seals behind the timing cover.

In the end, since everything was going to be taken apart anyway, I had the oil + filter, timing cover gasket, thermostat housing, water pump + housing and timing chain changed. The car seemed to drive fine (wasn't 100% sure the coolant leak had stopped but didn't get time to check).

A couple of days later, after picking my gf up from work and going to the cinema, on the way home the car went in to limp mode and the eobd light came on. Called the AA out who did a scan which came back with:

P0302 - Misfire detection, cylinder 2
P0300 - Misfire detection

He checked the plugs and the coils and they all seemed fine, the engine light went out before he could reset anything so he just followed me home to see if it would come back. We got back without any error but he mentioned on the final report that gets emailed, it showed another fault saying P1120 Throttle Valve Position. Drove it again the next day and after 25 or so miles the error came back. I read a thread on here that mentioned it could be caused by hitting both pedals at once so I reset the error to test it, making sure I was only touching one pedal and the error came back in less than a mile. I bought multiecuscan to test and this is what came back:

Functioning time (EEPROM) 241744
Operating time 241744
READING ERROR CODES:
1. P1120-61 - Throttle valve position control
ERROR DETAILS:
Operating time 241721 min
Engine speed 3370 rpm
Engine temperature 40 °C
Gas pedal position 35.06 %
Intake pressure 1021 mbar
Spark advance 22.250 deg.
Solenoid valve closing angle (command 1) 618.06 deg.
Battery voltage 14.88 V
UniAir electrovalve actuation mode Full-lift
Clutch pedal Released
Clutch contact 2 Released
Brake pedal Pressed
Brake contact 2 Released

I have no idea if there is anything on there that gives any relevant info apart from the error code.

On my paperwork from the garage it mentions the throttle body was removed and reinstalled, along with a long list of other things.

I did a search and most of the P1120 threads don't seem to be updated with what solved it. So I was just wondering if anyone knows if the P1120 fault relates to the throttle body sensor, or the one on the pedals? I don't really want to take it back to a garage for another £1000 bill unless it's something that I really can't do myself. Also is it worth trying the throttle position relearn feature in MES?

Thanks for any help and sorry for the long post.
 
Ahhh I saw that page before I went on holiday and completely forgot about it, thanks! I already ordered a barely used throttle body earlier so that makes me feel a bit more optimistic about it at least.

I'll have a prod around the current TB tomorrow and update if I find anything or if the throttle reset works, currently the butterfly barely opens at all. Otherwise I guess it'll be Monday/Tuesday when the replacement part turns up.

Thanks again
 
Really sorry as I know this post is a year old but I have a similar coolant leak issue. Checked everything without a ramp and suspect water pump or timing cover but cannot get to them. Any idea of cost for what you had done and was it a major job - cheers
 
Haha sorry I'm a bit late, my PC died when I was waiting for the part and I completely forgot about this!

Really sorry as I know this post is a year old but I have a similar coolant leak issue. Checked everything without a ramp and suspect water pump or timing cover but cannot get to them. Any idea of cost for what you had done and was it a major job - cheers

The coolant leak was the seals behind the timing cover. With a torch I could see the leak without a ramp and it was running down the front of the engine. Since it needed the chain taking off and was due to be changed a year later I had the expensive service done at the same time with the timing chain replacement. In total the repair and service came to £1053.77 [edit: found the receipt and I misremembered the price, the £800 was quoted by Fiat for the service].

Breakdown of what was involved in case it helps:

Timing Cover Gaskets - £12
Timing Chain Kit - £132.80
Timing Tool - £48
Water Pump - £49.80
Pump Housing - £49.70
Thermostat Housing - £42.50
Oil and Filter - £40
Antifreeze - £10
Oil Seal - £5.84

Parts Total - £390.64
Labour - £487.50
VAT - £175.63

The second hand throttle body fixed my other issue if anyone reads this in the future.
 
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Either an extra fun charge the garage threw on or they bought a timing tool kit for the chain I guess.
 
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