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Leaking water rear drivers side footwell.

Hi all Iíve tried to have a look to see what can be the route cause from the forum in relation to the water in my car.

The rear drivers side footwell is soaked, you push on it and water literally squeezes up around your hand, there also appears to be some wetness in the drivers footwell but not as much as the rear and doesnít feel like thereís anything wet under the seat (not 100% sure tho)

I read that it can be the AC pipe thatís blocked? How would I know this and would it cause the rear to be more wet?

Any help and advise appreciated. Iíve only had the car since 22nd feb 65 plate 500C - still in warranty also and Iím already hating it :-(

Iíve felt around the roof and all feels dry .
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Re: Leaking water rear drivers side footwell.

If itís still under warranty bring it back and get it sorted, itís what the warranty is for! Some cars do suffer from a leak via the rear bumper mounting so it could be that
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If itís still under warranty bring it back and get it sorted, itís what the warranty is for! Some cars do suffer from a leak via the rear bumper mounting so it could be that
Yeah sheís all booked in, if it was simple and easily sorted would rather rectify quickly. I checked all the drainage holes - no issues there (thatís prob the only simplest thing it could be,lol) lol
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Re: Leaking water rear drivers side footwell.

Took the car into fiat for the leak, said it was to do with the window not sitting probably. So rectified that, went for itís normal valet before picking up and when I opened the door knew the problem was still their, unfortunately service centre was now closed and I still have a leak.

It appears to come out the drainage holes as the bottom of the door and then over spills over the bottom rubber seal into the car.

Any ideas!? As Iíll be booking it into fiat but already waited 3 weeks to get it in and now will have to wait again prob another time span the same length.

Itís just going to wreck the car!! Iím so angry!
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Re: Leaking water rear drivers side footwell.

I think this is the door alignment. Look at how the rubber at the top of the door sits from the outside when the door is closed. If the rubber lip is outside of the metal of the top of the door shut then water gets inside, runs down the glass and into the inside of the door. This happened to me not so long ago. I released the top hinge bolt and pushed/tilted the door ever so slightly and it moved. As soon as I undone the bolt I think it moved a bit. It was enough so that rubber fits under the top rather than over it. Iíll take a photo of where I mean later in case my description isnít clear.
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I think this is the door alignment. Look at how the rubber at the top of the door sits from the outside when the door is closed. If the rubber lip is outside of the metal of the top of the door shut then water gets inside, runs down the glass and into the inside of the door. This happened to me not so long ago. I released the top hinge bolt and pushed/tilted the door ever so slightly and it moved. As soon as I undone the bolt I think it moved a bit. It was enough so that rubber fits under the top rather than over it. Iíll take a photo of where I mean later in case my description isnít clear.
I said to fiat that itís nothing to do with the window coming off the rail and to do with the seals but as per norm they donít listen.

Iím not happy with 3 seals on the door around the window! One I think is what you described and another two. Iíll grab some photos and try and up load them.

If you could show me that will be a massive help
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Re: Leaking water rear drivers side footwell.

This is how it should look

If this seal is not pressed against the body, water will get in and run down the inside.

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Re: Leaking water rear drivers side footwell.





These are mine, think itís what you have mentioned and exactly what I thought was coming in through the seals but fiat didnít listen!!

It appears thereís 3 points the seal donít sit flush. And the door doesnít appear to be as flush as the passenger side. What would cause this?
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Re: Leaking water rear drivers side footwell.

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What would cause this?
One obvious cause is badly repaired accident damage, or even an opportunistic thief trying to force open a door (it has happened). Sadly neither of these would qualify for rectification under warranty.

Have you owned the car from new?
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Quote Originally Posted by jrkitching View Post
One obvious cause is badly repaired accident damage, or even an opportunistic thief trying to force open a door (it has happened). Sadly neither of these would qualify for rectification under warranty.


Have you owned the car from new?
No havenít owned it from new bought it on the 22nd feb from fiat direct, noticed the problem after a week of having it after saying to the other half it smell of wet dogs and the window popping off itís hibge. 😬
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Re: Leaking water rear drivers side footwell.

I donít think where the triangle is would be the place as thatís just a piece of trim. To be honest the bits you show are quite a small area which I doubt would cause it. How does it look compared to the Other Side?

Put some kitchen roll, rolled up under where you think itís getting in and spray the hose on it, or better still sit in it and get someone else to spray a hose. Might give you a better idea of how itís getting in.
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I donít think where the triangle is would be the place as thatís just a piece of trim. To be honest the bits you show are quite a small area which I doubt would cause it. How does it look compared to the Other Side?

Put some kitchen roll, rolled up under where you think itís getting in and spray the hose on it, or better still sit in it and get someone else to spray a hose. Might give you a better idea of how itís getting in.
Compared to the other door, itís not flush. I got my dad to spray it and water is getting in, I could just about see a bit of water on the inside of the car. But hard to explain, but when the door is closed you can just about see some white paint between the door card and the pillar.

Iíve put a tea towel and kitchen towel in the rear foot well along the edge from the runner of chair seat to the rear seats and itís wet and the front foot well also gets wet. This is just with the car parked.

I have opened the door (my car is parked on a slight slip down towards the front) and water drips out of the hole closest to the hinges and you can see water pooling in the rubber seal at the bottom and water along it towards the back too. Iíll post pictures as I donít think I can post the video of it

My dad said if you look at the door from the rear of the car to the front the top half isnít sitting as flush either and plenty more water gets in this side than the passenger side
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Re: Leaking water rear drivers side footwell.

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No havenít owned it from new bought it on the 22nd feb from fiat direct, noticed the problem after a week of having it after saying to the other half it smell of wet dogs and the window popping off itís hinge. 😬
In that case, Fiat should fix it whatever the cause.

They don't normally fit that badly when new; I'd still be suspicious of something physically happening to the car.
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In that case, Fiat should fix it whatever the cause.

They don't normally fit that badly when new; I'd still be suspicious of something physically happening to the car.
Thereís no damage on the door paint work and it all matches. Nothing has been registered either. Who knows :-(

Iíll be booking it back in with fiat soon as they open. Total nightmare.

Is there a ruling with second hand cars bought direct from fiat that you return the car so many times they have to give you your money back r is that with just new cars?
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