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Simple question... Does fiat 500 1.3 diesel has dual-mass flywheel?

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Simple question... Does fiat 500 1.3 diesel has dual-mass flywheel?

Thank you

A simple question, but I don't think there's a simple answer.

It may depend on the model year and power of the engine; I suspect there may be a difference between the 75HP and 95HP versions.

Shop4Parts list two different versions of a DMF for a 1.3 diesel. Actually not as expensive as I would have expected.

Certainly we're not seeing posts about DMF failure on the forum.

DPF failure, on the other hand, is a different story and I'd be more concerned about that if considering a diesel 500.

Not according to this article.
Check " What To Watch Out For" point Number 2
https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/fiat/500-2007/?section=good

BUT then point 5 ( 4-1-2011) talks about 'rumour' of DMF failure on 1.3 multi jet ??????

Cheers Paul m.

Interesting reading the reported fault list in that link. I'll bring it into a separate thread so that more folks can see it.
 
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I think that this is important question cause it is one of the most common and most expensive faults on diesel motors, especially in used cars, which i plan to buy. Any help would be appreciated.

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I think that this is important question cause it is one of the most common and most expensive faults on diesel motors, especially in used cars, which i plan to buy. Any help would be appreciated.

DMF's are a wear and tear item on any car (where fitted) and ideally should be changed routinely when the clutch is replaced.

The real point with the 500 diesel is that, even if fitted, the parts are not that expensive and failure hasn't been reported on this forum. However there are several more common, and costly, failures reported with diesel 500's that are a much more important reason to be cautious when considering a secondhand purchase.
 
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I test drove a 2010 95bhp diesel 500 yesterday with 79k miles on the clock and the thing felt as if it was going to shake itself apart if you 'played with' the accelerator - just gently accelerating really .A shaking /resonance built up which I was frankly afraid to allow develop for fear of not getting back to the garage . I guessed it was the clutch . Is this likely to be a faulty or badly fitted DMF .Ive test driven two diesel 500 95bhps now and both have STUNK of diesel .I guess the DPF REALLY needs a regular work out and cars sitting on forecourts moved around a few metres daily are worse case scenario for failure .Would a fresh oil change be advisable if buying one even if garage say it was done?
My commute is two hours fast driving daily .Am I DPF fault proof?!
 
I test drove a 2010 95bhp diesel 500 yesterday with 79k miles on the clock and the thing felt as if it was going to shake itself apart if you 'played with' the accelerator - just gently accelerating really .A shaking /resonance built up which I was frankly afraid to allow develop for fear of not getting back to the garage . I guessed it was the clutch . Is this likely to be a faulty or badly fitted DMF .Ive test driven two diesel 500 95bhps now and both have STUNK of diesel .I guess the DPF REALLY needs a regular work out and cars sitting on forecourts moved around a few metres daily are worse case scenario for failure .Would a fresh oil change be advisable if buying one even if garage say it was done?
My commute is two hours fast driving daily .Am I DPF fault proof?!

You could be right with your diagnosis of a DMF fault on the car you test-drove, but in my experience DMF failure is usually a horrid clunk when the engine starts, and again when you first move off. I think a surging/shaking at speed can result from a failed turbo wastegate or EGR.

The diesel smell can be from leaks at the small return pipes from the injectors, or a leak from a badly-fitted fuel filter. Well, I’m sure there are many other potential causes but those are the ones I’ve seen.

I reckon your commute would be plenty enough to keep a diesel running well (provided it’s already running well...), but I’m inclined to agree with John202020 - when buying a commuting-car more than a few years old, especially a small car like the 500, choose the simplicity of the petrol engine (four-cylinder 1.2 or 1.4), as they give almost trouble-free service and good ‘real world’ economy that matches claimed figures (unlike for the TwinAir). I reckon the 1.4 with its 100hp is the best choice but then I’m biased, I have one :)

Seriously, as a car ages, you have to consider the cost of fixing it as well as the cost of running it, and having worked on 500 diesels, I’d rather fix a 1.2/1.4 petrol. No EGR or turbo problems. No DPF. Much easier to replace a cam belt than a stretched timing chain, etc.

-Alex
 
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