Mick F said:

We all have blanks because it costs an actual fortune to get us all proper keys.

Click to expand...

In any case, I think the maximum number of 'proper' keys that can be coded to the vehicle is 8.

I like the pragmatic solution that's been implemented here; after all, who's to know?

jrkitching said:

In any case, I think the maximum number of 'proper' keys that can be coded to the vehicle is 8.

I like the pragmatic solution that's been implemented here; after all, who's to know?

Click to expand...

Fifteen seater, there's plenty places to hide a key.

From what I can remember of the committee meetings prior to the purchase of this bus, it was a big problem regarding the keys with the Fiat.

The last bus was a Merc Sprinter. Not so much of an issue with the keys if I remember correctly, and the previous bus - can't remember the make - wasn't an issue at all.

Regards,
Mick.

Thanks folks. I have decided that she will have to do without the Fiat remote key.
Has anyone any experience of fitting an eBay remote locking kit? Where did you access the indicator/boot/locking cables?

I will still get a spare cloned key somewhere just as a back up in case my daughter loses hers!

Wheelnut3104 said:

Thanks folks. I have decided that she will have to do without the Fiat remote key.
Has anyone any experience of fitting an eBay remote locking kit? Where did you access the indicator/boot/locking cables?

I will still get a spare cloned key somewhere just as a back up in case my daughter loses hers!

Click to expand...

The cost and particularly the time factor, just pay for a new remote key, it may turn out to be "why did I start this" experience.

Slight change to the original question of this thread. I have a non remote key for my car. No code and no remote key. I have a working remote key from the car I broke. Can I get the blade cut so it will go in the ignition and then use MES to program it to the car. It’s definitely within the MES capability to do it, but there’s a possibility I may need a code to do it?

typecastboy said:

Slight change to the original question of this thread. I have a non remote key for my car. No code and no remote key. I have a working remote key from the car I broke. Can I get the blade cut so it will go in the ignition and then use MES to program it to the car. It’s definitely within the MES capability to do it, but there’s a possibility I may need a code to do it?

Click to expand...

I'm fairly sure you'll need the code card for the vehicle. Available from your Fiat dealer at wildly varying prices. There are threads.

Judging by the amount of 500’s being stolen without keys, you clearly don’t.

portland_bill said:

I'm fairly sure you'll need the code card for the vehicle. Available from your Fiat dealer at wildly varying prices. There are threads.

Click to expand...

Correct, MES requires the CODE for key changes.


Robert G8RPI.

Maggie said:

Judging by the amount of 500’s being stolen without keys, you clearly don’t.

Click to expand...

I'm not aware of any particular problem with conventional keyed Fiats, they are generally pretty secure. The latest keyless ones may be more at risk. There does seem to have been some cases of parts, even complete front bumpers and bonnets being stolen from 500s, but that's not key immobiliser related. Neither is key burglary or towing the car away.


Robert G8RPI.

g8rpi said:

Correct, MES requires the CODE for key changes.


Robert G8RPI.

Click to expand...

MES does, but this post would indicate that other 'tools' are available. The need for such tools by a professional locksmith is clear; but it is equally clear that such tools, in less scrupulous hands, could be used for unlawful porposes.

It’s been commented on the other thread I brought back to life that the locksmith can pull the code from the car. Will be contacting him soon.

Just realised, that’s the thread you were referring to.

Got someone coming over from Essex today £180 including the key. I was told that an old key can’t be used as it had to be virginised.

jrkitching said:

MES does, but this post would indicate that other 'tools' are available. The need for such tools by a professional locksmith is clear; but it is equally clear that such tools, in less scrupulous hands, could be used for unlawful porposes.

Click to expand...

Interesting, I know some suppliers can clone the immobiliser transponder from a working key but not sure how that supplier is doing it.
Be interesting to see how they get on with Typecast boy and if they need access to the non-remote key that works.


Robert G8RPI

No one has ever successfully ‘virginised’ a key for a 500. Welcome to give it a go, but I think you’re onto a loser.

It’s done! New remote key, coded and cut to the car. Was working perfectly then stopped so he gas to come back. Might be a dodgy key. Still starts the car but they’re,one has stopped. £180.

typecastboy said:

It’s done! New remote key, coded and cut to the car. Was working perfectly then stopped so he gas to come back. Might be a dodgy key. Still starts the car but they’re,one has stopped. £180.

Click to expand...

Did he need access to a working key?


The faulty remote could just be a dodgy battery, did you try a new one?


Robert G8RPI.

g8rpi said:

Did he need access to a working key?


The faulty remote could just be a dodgy battery, did you try a new one?


Robert G8RPI.

Click to expand...

He had the spare key to cut the blade but pulled the code for the new remote key from the ecu with his £4K bit of kit.

I haven’t tried the battery but I will as he is coming back tomorrow.

He came back today. He said the battery contacts were bent. He replaced the battery tray and the battery and it’s fine now.

Car is all finished now

I have looked so hard, but cannot find the obligatory mug of tea in any of the pictures !