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Re: Loss of water?

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Found it, part number in the pic
Just to confirm that is the one with the bleed valve in, I'll Pm you
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Re: Loss of water?

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Pic of valve
so where did it break..??

at the TEE of the union.., or did the threaded section fail..
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Quote Originally Posted by varesecrazy View Post
so where did it break..??

at the TEE of the union.., or did the threaded section fail..
The turn wheel part sheared off from the threaded section so have what looks like a "button" the threaded section has a cut in it to bleed the air (so now leaks all the time) the top bit having the sealing ring.
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The turn wheel part sheared off from the threaded section so have what looks like a "button" the threaded section has a cut in it to bleed the air (so now leaks all the time) the top bit having the sealing ring.
Exactly the same thing that happened to mine.

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Re: Loss of water?

If you can drill through the broken off shank (careful to not go too far.. or your drill will come out through the bottom of the hose.. you'll be able to get an EasyOut or stud extractor into it and that should unscrew it.

The Cinquecento has a similar arrangement and I've looked for any radiator bleed screw that might do the job.. but they (e.g. 71765572) tend to be M8 so too fat for the hole which seems to be an M6 or M7 (can't remember now).

Anyhow, you can get a regular plastic number plate screw into that hole, if you don't have a bolt with a flanged head .. but you will need to try a different O-ring. It has to fit the shank of the bolt, not the O-ring groove that is normally covered by the wide head of the screw.

If I turn up a better solution I'll post it. Someone once mentioned that the Land Rover radiator screw fits.... and you can buy those... but I dunno if that's true. They could be just the same size as the radiator bleed screw.

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Quote Originally Posted by Ralf S. View Post
If you can drill through the broken off shank (careful to not go too far.. or your drill will come out through the bottom of the hose.. you'll be able to get an EasyOut or stud extractor into it and that should unscrew it.

The Cinquecento has a similar arrangement and I've looked for any radiator bleed screw that might do the job.. but they (e.g. 71765572) tend to be M8 so too fat for the hole which seems to be an M6 or M7 (can't remember now).

Anyhow, you can get a regular plastic number plate screw into that hole, if you don't have a bolt with a flanged head .. but you will need to try a different O-ring. It has to fit the shank of the bolt, not the O-ring groove that is normally covered by the wide head of the screw.

If I turn up a better solution I'll post it. Someone once mentioned that the Land Rover radiator screw fits.... and you can buy those... but I dunno if that's true. They could be just the same size as the radiator bleed screw.

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Thanks a very kind forum member is sending me a new hose, fitting it along with a new steel pipe from the water pump could be a serious PITA, along with new spark plugs, earth strap and clutch slave cylinder
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Do you think it's a good job I got a new steel pipe?
It's certainly one of those jobs fighting me all the way!

On a different note has anyone replaced the clutch slave cylinder (pipe+cylinder ) there seems to be a push ONCE fit connector how do you get it apart? Going to call in to Fiat before I bust it.
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This is the clutch pipe connection note the crack in the plastic bush(on the right near the base white plastic part, click to enlarge-its hard to see)
The pipe is leaking where it meets the slave cylinder due to corrosion
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Thought it best to replace the engine earth too
Also is the radiator set at a angle mine seems on a skew pic looking down as from the rear of engine
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Re: Loss of water?

Arrr I found the leak, the heater matrix, so I'm going to try and fix it, I will let you know how I get on, new part 23 delivered from Carparts4less.
Have to say thank you to Varesecrazy for helping putting my mind to ease.
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This is the sum total of how to replace it in the Haynes manual,
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It's out! Now just need to wait until tomorrow when the new one arrives.
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Re: Loss of water?

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It's out! Now just need to wait until tomorrow when the new one arrives.
is it leaky in a similar place to the pics of mine..??
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