General twinair bumper and front driver quarter panel price

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General twinair bumper and front driver quarter panel price

all the parts for the front are at least double the prices you said there, all genuine fiat and brand new, and it needs a new back axle because when the car spun the front side got slammed into a telegraph pole and the back wheel hit a high curb that was hidden in the grass bank and buckle the back wheel, they put a new stub axle in it first to see if that would fix it but it didn't so new back axle needed at £835
 
That is an average price that I have paid for second hand, genuine Fiat parts off of donor cars. My current Cat C. I paid £100 for a complete door with glass, switches etc. There are plenty of parts on eBay and there is a member of this forum Club500Italia whose business it is to break 500s and sell the parts. I have bought lots of parts from him. A second hand back axle probably wouldn't set you back more than a hundred quid or so.

The parts are out there if you want to do it for a reasonable price. You don't need to buy original new parts when there are loads of second hand parts available. Many of the parts I have used in the 6 cars I have repaired have been newer than the car, so you're actually getting better and newer than what was on it originally.
 
The parts are out there if you want to do it for a reasonable price. You don't need to buy original new parts when there are loads of second hand parts available.

Rear Axle on Ebay £85

You can buy parts like these much more cheaply secondhand, and put cars back on the road for far less than it would cost to do a pukka repair using new, genuine parts.

The catch is that you have no way of knowing the provenance of the parts you're using. That ebay axle could turn out to be no better, or even worse, than the one that needs replacing. Most body parts on ebay will be from salvage cars and you've no way of knowing what stresses they were subject to in the previous accident.

At the end of the day, you pays your money and you makes your choice.

My concern would be that a shunt sufficient to bend both the front & back axles could have put the chassis out of true, and if that's happened it'll be wearing tyres prematurely for the rest of its life. Sometimes the best thing you can do after a prang is to find the cheapest way to get rid & move on to another car. My own experience has been that cars needing any but the most superficial of repairs have never been quite the same again.

Buying a repaired accident damaged car, whether recorded or otherwise, is IMO a risk not worth taking and I would sooner walk away from what might be a perfectly good car than take the chance of ending up with a lemon.
 
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You can buy parts like these much more cheaply secondhand, and put cars back on the road for far less than it would cost to do a pukka repair using new, genuine parts.

The catch is that you have no way of knowing the provenance of the parts you're using. That ebay axle could turn out to be no better, or even worse, than the one that needs replacing. Most body parts on ebay will be from salvage cars and you've no way of knowing what stresses they were subject to in the previous accident.

At the end of the day, you pays your money and you makes your choice.

My concern would be that a shunt sufficient to bend both the front & back axles could have put the chassis out of true, and if that's happened it'll be wearing tyres prematurely for the rest of its life. Sometimes the best thing you can do after a prang is to find the cheapest way to get rid & move on to another car. My own experience has been that cars needing any but the most superficial of repairs have never been quite the same again.


True, which is why when I sell my repaired cars I am selling to a reduced market as most people are scared of a repaired car. I always take before, during and after photos and try to find out what happened in the crash. My current cat c was still pretty minor damage and the biggest cost was for new dash and 5 airbags that I replaced. I dread to think what that would have cost from Fiat.
 
I dread to think what that would have cost from Fiat.

Enough to write the car off, which is why it ended up as a cat C in a salvage dealer's stockyard.

My biggest worry would be what might happen if the car is involved in a subsequent accident and the airbags fail to deploy correctly.
 
Enough to write the car off, which is why it ended up as a cat C in a salvage dealer's stockyard.

My biggest worry would be what might happen if the car is involved in a subsequent accident and the airbags fail to deploy correctly.


Why would they be any more likely to fail than an original car? They are original parts.

Some of the cars I have had which have been written off have been not much more than a couple of new bumpers needed. It's truly mystifying why some cars get written off.
 
Why would they be any more likely to fail than an original car? They are original parts.

Fair question, though I think it should be asked the other way round.

How can you be sure they are going to deploy correctly?

and

Whose liability will it be (both morally and legally) if it doesn't?

I'll bet your repaired airbag system will work at least 99.99% of the time. But life critical systems are supposed to have a failure rate so low as to render them statistically extremely improbable; in the aircraft industry, that's generally taken to be when the probability of failure is less than 1 in 10^-9.

Can you be that certain that an airbag system repaired by even the most diligent and knowledgable amateur, programmed and tested without access to the manufacturer's own tools, is going to meet that kind of standard of reliability?

Don't take this the wrong way; I'd likely use a car with an airbag system that I'd personally repaired, but I know the risks and am, in effect, taking a calculated gamble knowing those risks.

What I wouldn't do is to then sell that car on to someone else. The potential liability that could arise in the admittedly highly unlikely worst case scenario is mind bogglingly frightening.

I'm sure even manufacturer-installed OEM airbag systems will on occasion fail to deploy correctly (it's a common cause for recalls across the industry and the 500 has had at least one such recall in the early days), but at least I'm not personally responsible if that happens.
 
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True, which is why when I sell my repaired cars I am selling to a reduced market as most people are scared of a repaired car. I always take before, during and after photos and try to find out what happened in the crash. My current cat c was still pretty minor damage and the biggest cost was for new dash and 5 airbags that I replaced. I dread to think what that would have cost from Fiat.


brand new air bag system for fiat 500 is at least £650 I'm lucky my airbags didn't go off well I'm not sure if I'd call it lucky as I'm still battered and bruised 3 weeks after the crash
 
Enough to write the car off, which is why it ended up as a cat C in a salvage dealer's stockyard.

My biggest worry would be what might happen if the car is involved in a subsequent accident and the airbags fail to deploy correctly.


for the amount of damage done to my car I would have thought the airbags would have went off but they didn't
 
I have checked all local scrap yards, and eBay, and at that time there were no parts that I would have felt comfortable putting in my car, I seen a few that I could have got the back axle out of, the scrap yard dealers said they were fine but the cars they were out of had been rear ended, I don't want to spend the money and time and labour for the people fixing my car to put a second hand axle in my car to find out that's damaged too
 
You can buy parts like these much more cheaply secondhand, and put cars back on the road for far less than it would cost to do a pukka repair using new, genuine parts.

The catch is that you have no way of knowing the provenance of the parts you're using. That ebay axle could turn out to be no better, or even worse, than the one that needs replacing. Most body parts on ebay will be from salvage cars and you've no way of knowing what stresses they were subject to in the previous accident.

At the end of the day, you pays your money and you makes your choice.

My concern would be that a shunt sufficient to bend both the front & back axles could have put the chassis out of true, and if that's happened it'll be wearing tyres prematurely for the rest of its life. Sometimes the best thing you can do after a prang is to find the cheapest way to get rid & move on to another car. My own experience has been that cars needing any but the most superficial of repairs have never been quite the same again.

Buying a repaired accident damaged car, whether recorded or otherwise, is IMO a risk not worth taking and I would sooner walk away from what might be a perfectly good car than take the chance of ending up with a lemon.


the company fixing my car has checked the chassis alignment and have said it is fine
 
Good news. Get on eBay and buy those parts. Even if you decide to get new mechanicals, the body parts will save you a bomb


the company fixing my car already bought the brand new genuine fiat ones they also said they wouldn't use anything other than genuine parts
 
That's a shame. I was talking about used parts, which are probably better than the replacement OEM parts that they use.


they also said they wouldn't use second hand parts, I found them a few parts for my car that was needed from ones being broken and they said they wouldn't use them, has to be brand new and genuine fiat, which I suppose is already
 
they also said they wouldn't use second hand parts, I found them a few parts for my car that was needed from ones being broken and they said they wouldn't use them, has to be brand new and genuine fiat, which I suppose is already
Why? That's ridiculous. If you could see the pucker job they made of my current Cat C, from a secondhand door and front bumper, it's magnificent.

I can only imagine if you supply the parts, they can't mark them up.

Do you know how much it's all going to cost you now?
 
Why? That's ridiculous. If you could see the pucker job they made of my current Cat C, from a secondhand door and front bumper, it's magnificent.

I can only imagine if you supply the parts, they can't mark them up.

Do you know how much it's all going to cost you now?


I will admit the company that is fixing my car hasn't been great, they have had the car 3 weeks now, will only use brand new genuine fiat parts, they had originally said I had to source my own parts, I went out of my way and found them whatever they wanted and needed, gave them all the details and information, then they told me no they will be using brand new genuine fiat parts, they told me if I wanted I could sort out the wheels myself so they were finished and ready to put straight on to the car so I went and bought 4 second hand alloys and tyres (I wrote about them before in this topic) and left then in to a place to get them sprayed as they were silver and I wanted them satin black like the original ones on my car, I phoned to let them know I had bought wheels and they were getting painted and would be ready in 2 days time, they went nuts over this saying they needed the wheels right now to do a wheel alignment, I asked them had they even got the new parts (stub axle, wishbone and strut) and fitted them to put the wheels on to do a new wheel alignment check to see if that had fixed it and they still hadn't received the parts so they didn't need the wheels then and there, they then told me to sort it out that they could go pick up the wheels straight away anyway so I arranged this, I later phoned the place that I had left the wheels into and they said they still had not been picked up, the following day the company that is sorting my car then told me to go pick the wheels up myself and bring them to them straight away when I questioned why they had not picked them up when I arranged for them to do so, oh and when they first went and got the car from the compound I had the car towed to after the crash as it was a Saturday they brought the car back to their garage and checked just the front end of the car where the body work damage was clearly visable, they didn't bother checking the rest of the car which I would have thought would have been standard practice after a crash, they didn't even notice that the back wheel was buckled, then when I told them about this they said there was nothing wrong with it when even I could see it was straight and I don't know a hell of a lot about cars, and now when they finally look into the backend of the car they find out the axle is bent, but even that caused a disput as one guy in the company said it was bent and another guy said it was fine, but finally they agreed it did need a new axle
 
Why? That's ridiculous. If you could see the pucker job they made of my current Cat C, from a secondhand door and front bumper, it's magnificent.

I can only imagine if you supply the parts, they can't mark them up.

Do you know how much it's all going to cost you now?


and no the first quote they gave me was £2500 and that was just for the front end when they first checked it, since then it has also been discovered it needed back axle £835, stub axle, front wheel strut, hub £335, plus a lot more labour hours, I asked them a few days ago if they could now work out a rough final price, they said yes no problem they would have it by the end of the day, then when I phoned back at the end of the day I got the guy that owns the place and he said he hadn't done it because it was to much hassle to go get the job sheet and all
 
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