General Adiós Fiat

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General Adiós Fiat

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Well folks, our relationship with Fiat has come to an end. We've PX'd the TA for a brand new (not pre-reg) 2015 Hyundai i10, 1.2 Premium. At least we've not had to traipse around half the country this time, having bought from a local dealership. It took just 11 days from ordering the car to taking possession.


Why did we do it? Easy enough decision really. The Hyundai comes with a standard 5 year unlimited mileage warranty and 5 year breakdown assistance included. The 3 year servicing plan cost just £349 or £116 per year. So with a work scheme discount, the PX on the TA, Diamondbrite paint protection/cloth protection, full mat set, proper boot liner thrown in gratis, all that remained was to hand over £4.5k and that was that, new car, paid for in full, job done. We've not even seen an increase in our car insurance.


The Hyundai is a fantastic drive on both the motorway (which we travel on everyday) and on 'usual' roads and it is much quieter all round than the TA. Indeed the 1.2 engine is so quiet when sat at the lights, you'd think the engine wasn't running. It has noticeably better suspension than our TA had. I also like the fact it has cruise control, full Bluetooth connectivity pack and disc brakes all round which are sharper than a cats claws! Also as we rediscovered today on a small car, having four doors is an absolute winner for us.


Before committal, me and 'er indoors spent half the day the other weekend looking around car supermarkets. What struck us walking around, were the amount of Fiat 500's for sale, loads of 'em, so clearly plenty are now available on the second hand market. Also, it has become abundantly clear, just how many of our neighbours now have a 500. When we bought our first one, there were only a couple of 500's near us and now there's several and it's all starting to look very similar, just like the houses we all live in!


So that then just leaves me to say adiós as a Fiat owner. I've enjoyed the cars, both the 1.2 and the TA. We'd never owned Fiat's before these two. We've had almost 4 years of ownership spread between both vehicles, both bought for several thousand pounds cheaper than brand new list price. Both cars though had to have warranty work carried out which would have cost quite a lot of money to put right if the cars were out of warranty. That being said, both cars were total fun, a joy to drive and I'd be a poorer man for not having had the experience of ownership. I'd certainly never put anyone off of buying one but personally, I'd grown bored of the cutesy retro look appeal on which the 500 clearly sells so well.


Keep well and keep safe. I hope I'll still be allowed to continue to contribute to this fantastic forum without a 'traitor' tag or being summarily banned lol!


Thanks to all! (y)
 
Well said (y) and enjoy the i10 my Friends daughter has a new one also,surprising amount of space in them well refined and a decent boot !
All the best and keep posting :)
 
Well, I have to admit that I've looked at the Hyundai i10 too. It's a very practical small car with a surprisingly large boot and it's not too ugly. Good luck with it!
 
We had one whilst the 500 was being fixed and got within £400 of a deal on a new one last year.Wish we had gone for it now as 500 values dont seem to be holding up and cant afford to change it now.The Hyundai is a very good car.
 
We had one whilst the 500 was being fixed and got within £400 of a deal on a new one last year.Wish we had gone for it now as 500 values dont seem to be holding up and cant afford to change it now.The Hyundai is a very good car.

And this was one of the very reasons I was keen to do a deal now. Actually, the whole thing kind of grabbed me by surprise. Went out on a Sunday morning specifically to ask to see and test drive an i10 with a thousand miles on the clock only to discover it actually had 3k on the clock because the advert was out of date. Next thing you know we're in a demonstrator on a 10 mile test drive and an 1.5 hours later, we'd ordered a new car.

Clearly, I didn't get as much on the PX if I'd gone down the private sale route, but I'm at an age now where I can't be bothered with tyre kickers. Plus I don't need to get the Fiat serviced at the end of this month now. The dealer has taken a good car off us and it will make someone a happy bunny. I just hope it gets the service it deserves before it goes on the forecourt with a price in the window.

Anyway, I can't argue about the manufacture date on the Hyundai. This afternoon, I've been over the entire car with a fine toothcomb. The manufacture dates on the headlamp stickers indicate they were made in the first and second weeks of May this year and some of the other stickers attached to other parts under the bonnet indicate assembly only a few weeks ago. I'm guessing therefore when it came up from Tilbury on the transporter last Wednesday, it had probably only been in the country a couple of weeks. That in my book is pretty impressive. I'm glad I had the paint protection pack now, especially as it was thrown in free, the paintwork is stunning.
 
You have got me thinking now,maybe I should go and see how much it would cost to swap as we need a 4 door car and a car with better brakes. I remember the brakes being really good on the loan car we had.
 
Back onto this braking subject again. :D

I bought our 500TA because it was a 500TA ............. and the EXCELLENT brakes are a bonus. Why some folk complain about the brakes, I haven't got a clue.

I bought the 500TA even though it only has two doors, even though it has a small boot, and even though it's a Fiat. We love the look of the 500, and it was the first car I've seen in many a long year that looks good and that we'd like to own.

Some of you may remember that I've mentioned that the handbrake isn't too good, but recently it has improved no end. Maybe the fact that it has only just done 17,000miles now that could have made a difference. I get the impression that the previous owner didn't use the car much. Also the engine is getting smoother and smoother and even more economical.

We drove up to Bristol on Friday, and back Sunday. Nearly 300miles there and back and returned 58mpg overall including the centre of Bristol on a Saturday afternoon. Went up on the A30/M5/M4/M32, then home via the A38 and Old A30.

As far as we're concerned, what's not to like?

Regards,
Mick.
 
I don't have any issues with the brakes on mine. There nowhere near as good as they were on my last car but then I had swapped the standards for Porsche 4pots!

The 500 is a great little car for popping to work and back and occasional motorway. If I had to do any serious commuting or when we have kids it'll have to go tho!
 
Back onto this braking subject again. :D

I bought our 500TA because it was a 500TA ............. and the EXCELLENT brakes are a bonus. Why some folk complain about the brakes, I haven't got a clue.

I bought the 500TA even though it only has two doors, even though it has a small boot, and even though it's a Fiat. We love the look of the 500, and it was the first car I've seen in many a long year that looks good and that we'd like to own.

Some of you may remember that I've mentioned that the handbrake isn't too good, but recently it has improved no end. Maybe the fact that it has only just done 17,000miles now that could have made a difference. I get the impression that the previous owner didn't use the car much. Also the engine is getting smoother and smoother and even more economical.

We drove up to Bristol on Friday, and back Sunday. Nearly 300miles there and back and returned 58mpg overall including the centre of Bristol on a Saturday afternoon. Went up on the A30/M5/M4/M32, then home via the A38 and Old A30.

As far as we're concerned, what's not to like?

Regards,
Mick.
brakes of the TA are noticeably worse than the 1.4. In my opinion that's a problem.
 
Maybe yours are. I couldn't possibly comment.

I passed my driving test in 1970 and my advanced test in 1988. I've owned many many many cars over the years, and the brakes on our 500TA are as good as best of any I've used ............... and they are better than most by a long way.

Somehow, there must be something going on here. Some folk complain about the brakes, others have no problem, and me and few others are saying they are excellent. Strange methinks.

Regards,
Mick.
 
Maybe yours are. I couldn't possibly comment.

I passed my driving test in 1970 and my advanced test in 1988. I've owned many many many cars over the years, and the brakes on our 500TA are as good as best of any I've used ............... and they are better than most by a long way.

Somehow, there must be something going on here. Some folk complain about the brakes, others have no problem, and me and few others are saying they are excellent. Strange methinks.

Regards,
Mick.

I find mine a bit grabby and not very progressive, they will stop you though which is what matters, they just dont feel great however it doesent bother me particularly
 
Yes, grabby. Good word.
Aggressive and sharp maybe.
Whatever they are, they work well, and we use ours a great deal round here.

As I said earlier, we drove up the Bristol on Saturday and back on Sunday. We came home via Bridgwater and the A38 where it's flat for mile after mile after mile. Brakes? Hardly needed them. Traffic lights and junctions? Take your foot off in plenty time and brake gently. Honestly, if you live somewhere flat, you wouldn't need much in the way of good brakes at all ........... unless you drive hard and brake late ........... which I don't and never have.

Round here, life is full of hills and more hills, followed by corners and more corners, then more hills ad infinitum. Fuel consumption suffers and so do brake linings and drums/discs.

Brakes must be used, sometimes hard due to the hills. We live on a long steep 1in4 (25%) hill, and engine braking won't slow you down alone ............ especially in a 500TA. You need to hold onto your brakes. Believe me, we need good brakes round here, and a good handbrake too.

Greetings from Cornwall,
Mick.
 
Really wish you well with the Hyundai, I`m certain it will last forever and never go wrong, but it will never have the appeal of the 500. As a Volvo owner once said to me, his car would go on and on ...my response was whether or not he would actually want it to ?? It`s all personal choice but I was thinking of changing my 500 later this year when it`s 3 but realised there is nothing I would change it for!
 
......and the brakes on our 500TA are as good as best of any I've used ............... and they are better than most by a long way.

Somehow, there must be something going on here. Some folk complain about the brakes, others have no problem, and me and few others are saying they are excellent. Strange methinks.

Regards,
Mick.

I can't disagree with you Mick on the TA's brakes, they are perfectly good and we didn't have any issues at all with ours. What I will say now though, is the i10's brakes are a damn sight better, but then I guess that is the benefit of all round disc brakes. Some might argue you don't need disc brakes all round on such a small car, but having now experienced it with the Hyundai, they're well worth having.
 
Really wish you well with the Hyundai, I`m certain it will last forever and never go wrong, but it will never have the appeal of the 500. As a Volvo owner once said to me, his car would go on and on ...my response was whether or not he would actually want it to ?? It`s all personal choice but I was thinking of changing my 500 later this year when it`s 3 but realised there is nothing I would change it for!

I perfectly understand your sentiment, but even though I wasn't the main driver of the vehicle, we both just became a bit bored with the 500's looks, probably because it's getting to the stage where in the city certainly, so many people seem to be driving one. Even where my wife works, three of her collegues have a 500, so you can hopefully understand what I'm on about.

Then there was the overall reliability issue that began to bug us. We were no longer prepared to wait for a door handle to just break off, or suffer another boot micro switch failure or hope that the hatch wiring didn't fray and break. And as for the complete dash pod having to be replaced, don't get me started on that one! Suddenly, being faced with a depleting warranty period, the love affair was starting to wear off. A shame in many ways because the TA was a truly fun car to drive and I for one absolutely loved the engine, utterly brilliant. Anyway, we've sold it on with zero issues, so I hope whoever owns it next has a good relationship with it.

As I stated earlier, I've enjoyed both the 500's we owned, but it was definitely time to move on whilst we could maximise the value remaining on the TA. I think personally, we've ended up with a much better car. It's certainly far more practical for 'er indoors and she's even using the cruise control, something our Saab 9-3 has and a couple of other of my vehicles had, but she had never bothered using. Oh, and the Bluetooth connectivity is much better in the i10 in my opinion. The only 'downside', is the wife no longer has the plug in dash port for the satnav. She's got over that one already! :D
 
Ours is a 1.2 with rear drums and they just dont seem as good as the 1.2 Lounge we used to have.
 
The Hyundai is a fantastic drive on both the motorway (which we travel on everyday) and on 'usual' roads
Is it really? I haven't made a test drive yet, but I would expect the i10 to accelerate as sluggish as a 500 1.2 at speeds above 60 mph, which would annoy every ex TA driver.
 
Is it really? I haven't made a test drive yet, but I would expect the i10 to accelerate as sluggish as a 500 1.2 at speeds above 60 mph, which would annoy every ex TA driver.

Why oh why does everything have to be about speed or acceleration? You're right, it doesn't accelerate as good as a TA, either from a standing start or when at speed but imo, it's not a great deal different to the Fiat 1.2 either. The wife and I have both driven the i10 on the M1 here and it isn't giving us any issues, it certainly isn't annoying by any means. Maybe it's our age, we're just not speed freaks anymore lol!
 
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