(G) TA 105 vs 85 on the autostrada

ahmett · 20-05-2015

Originally Posted by TrevC

The TA engines don't sound so revvy because, being a twin cylinder, there is only one firing per revolution. A 4-cylinder engine fires twice per rev. This caught me out a few times when I first got mine, and brushed the rev limiter a couple of times in second and third gear. I certainly wouldn't agree that it"s "pure misery" above 50mph. Sure, it's not as refined as a bigger car, but no worse than (usually larger) superminis I've driven.

i guess i am being spoilt now but if you spend 13,000 GBP on a car you would expect more refinement. this goes with what many people say, if you compare the fiat to a 9,000 GBP car its excellent but for 13,000 GBP for a decent one you'd expect more.

and i must say, new cars seem more refined than old cars, and the fiat 500 2007 is just getting really out of date.

AGH1965 · 21-05-2015

Originally Posted by ahmett

haha yes that rev limiter on the TA is really miserable as well = ) you reach max power at 6,000 then the engine literally dies on you.

As far as I know maximum power is at 5500 rpm. At 6000 rpm the engine lets you know by "dying" that it's time to awake and shift gear.

P.S. I have the impression that there are no days in your life without FIAT 500 bashing...

ahmett · 21-05-2015

Originally Posted by AGH1965

As far as I know maximum power is at 5500 rpm. At 6000 rpm the engine lets you know by "dying" that it's time to awake and shift gear.

P.S. I have the impression that there are no days in your life without FIAT 500 bashing...

Yes I must admit my dualogic experiences have scarred me from fiat for life

Anyway this forum needs a fiat 500 basher to reveal the dark side !

babyferrari · 21-05-2015

Originally Posted by ahmett

What i do know is anything above 50 mph is pure misery in a Fiat 500 = ) anything below much nicer = )

What????? Sorry but I simply don't agree.

500C TA 105

babyferrari · 21-05-2015

Originally Posted by ahmett

Sorry 79. They don't prosecute you at up to 79 no? So in UK I just do 80 the whole time on the motorway when road traffic allows as I know that the indicated speed on the speedo is always a bit higher than actual speed

You appear to be on the wrong forum!

500C TA 105

babyferrari · 21-05-2015

Originally Posted by TrevC

The TA engines don't sound so revvy because, being a twin cylinder, there is only one firing per revolution. A 4-cylinder engine fires twice per rev. This caught me out a few times when I first got mine, and brushed the rev limiter a couple of times in second and third gear. I certainly wouldn't agree that it"s "pure misery" above 50mph. Sure, it's not as refined as a bigger car, but no worse than (usually larger) superminis I've driven.

Thanks Trev. That explains what I was trying to say earlier. It is just very different. Without driving a TA I find it hard how anyone can have an opinion. You just have to drive one to "get it". It is quite unexpected which is why people buy them.

500C TA 105

gazz_bee · 21-05-2015

Originally Posted by TrevC

This caught me out a few times when I first got mine, and brushed the rev limiter a couple of times in second and third gear.

I test drove a panda cross (6 speed, 90hp) a few months ago and hit the rev limiter a couple of times too. Its a combination of an engine that spins up quickly and the strange engine note. But what a bundle of fun the TA is to drive.

gazz_bee · 21-05-2015

Originally Posted by ahmett

haha yes that rev limiter on the TA is really miserable as well = ) you reach max power at 6,000 then the engine literally dies on you. at least with the 1.4 you reach max power at 6,000 then until 7,000 you feel the power slowly slowly going away then at 7,250 you hit the fuel cutoff! it gives you notice, the TA just kills you straight up haha.

Which is why I'm surprised you're considering a diesel.

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ahmett Get Your Own Title Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 4,178 Thanks: 80 Trader Rating: 0	Re: TA 105 vs 85 on the autostrada Originally Posted by TrevC The TA engines don't sound so revvy because, being a twin cylinder, there is only one firing per revolution. A 4-cylinder engine fires twice per rev. This caught me out a few times when I first got mine, and brushed the rev limiter a couple of times in second and third gear. I certainly wouldn't agree that it"s "pure misery" above 50mph. Sure, it's not as refined as a bigger car, but no worse than (usually larger) superminis I've driven. i guess i am being spoilt now but if you spend 13,000 GBP on a car you would expect more refinement. this goes with what many people say, if you compare the fiat to a 9,000 GBP car its excellent but for 13,000 GBP for a decent one you'd expect more. and i must say, new cars seem more refined than old cars, and the fiat 500 2007 is just getting really out of date. __________________
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AGH1965 Get Your Own Title Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 639 Thanks: 35 Trader Rating: 0	Re: TA 105 vs 85 on the autostrada Originally Posted by ahmett haha yes that rev limiter on the TA is really miserable as well = ) you reach max power at 6,000 then the engine literally dies on you. As far as I know maximum power is at 5500 rpm. At 6000 rpm the engine lets you know by "dying" that it's time to awake and shift gear. P.S. I have the impression that there are no days in your life without FIAT 500 bashing... UFI liked this post __________________ If I write something stupid, it's probably because English isn't my native language!
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ahmett Get Your Own Title Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 4,178 Thanks: 80 Trader Rating: 0	TA 105 vs 85 on the autostrada Originally Posted by AGH1965 As far as I know maximum power is at 5500 rpm. At 6000 rpm the engine lets you know by "dying" that it's time to awake and shift gear. P.S. I have the impression that there are no days in your life without FIAT 500 bashing... Yes I must admit my dualogic experiences have scarred me from fiat for life Anyway this forum needs a fiat 500 basher to reveal the dark side ! __________________ Last edited by ahmett; 21-05-2015 at 18:14.
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