Hi all,

After some advice. I've gone out to change the front pads on my twinair today.

I've changed more pads than I care to remember so was expecting a straight forward job.

However it can't for the life of me get the caliber up. There is a pin on the front but is there one on the back or a bolt that I'm not seeing. Really appreciate any help.

Thanks

robmc said:

Hi all,

After some advice. I've gone out to change the front pads on my twinair today.

I've changed more pads than I care to remember so was expecting a straight forward job.

However it can't for the life of me get the caliber up. There is a pin on the front but is there one on the back or a bolt that I'm not seeing. Really appreciate any help.

Thanks

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There are two bolts holding the caliber in place from the back. You have to remove the calipers not just swing it up. The bolts are torx E16. Hope this helps : )

lol, everyone who writes 'calliper' ends up with caliber written on here for some reason

Thanks, just taken another look.

These are the ones with the rubber caps on aren't they? I thought they were sealed!

Classic Fiat -never straight-forward!

robmc said:

Thanks, just taken another look.

These are the ones with the rubber caps on aren't they? I thought they were sealed!

Classic Fiat -never straight-forward!

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No, that's the sliders!!!

robmc said:

Thanks, just taken another look.

These are the ones with the rubber caps on aren't they? I thought they were sealed!

Classic Fiat -never straight-forward!

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Did you manage it ok? Hope so : )

robmc said:

After some advice.
I've changed more pads than I care to remember so was expecting a straight forward job.

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I'm after some advice/information too.

I had a set of tyres fitted last week to our 500TA, and whilst the front wheels were off, I had a good look at the front callipers and pad wear. I knew the pads were getting worn, so the state of them wasn't surprising. I've got a new set of pads waiting, and I'm waiting for the rain to cease so I can get on and do them.

I too have changed more pads than I care to remember, but these new pads look different. Also when I was looking at the callipers, they were not the same as I've seen on YouTube for the 500.

The callipers have a spring that seems to hold the parts together rather than a removable pin. I really wish I'd taken a photo at the tyre place.

My new pads have (per side) a black screwed-on bracket on the same pad that has the wear indicator wire .................... photo attached.

Any advice or info I need to know before I start the job?
500TA 2011.

Thanks guys,
Mick.

Mick F said:

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Any advice or info I need to know before I start the job?

500TA 2011.



Thanks guys,

Mick.

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Hi Mick,
I think front brake on TA is ATE type.
I did not do the job on my TA yet, but on FORD Focus, which has same brake type.

Most of the time I had to change the disks too, so please don't forget to check thickness.

Check this video (it's a German version):

[ame]http://youtu.be/JST8PeYkpAw[/ame]

I think it shows the principle.

Lars

Mick F said:

I'm after some advice/information too.

I had a set of tyres fitted last week to our 500TA, and whilst the front wheels were off, I had a good look at the front callipers and pad wear. I knew the pads were getting worn, so the state of them wasn't surprising. I've got a new set of pads waiting, and I'm waiting for the rain to cease so I can get on and do them.

I too have changed more pads than I care to remember, but these new pads look different. Also when I was looking at the callipers, they were not the same as I've seen on YouTube for the 500.

The callipers have a spring that seems to hold the parts together rather than a removable pin. I really wish I'd taken a photo at the tyre place.

My new pads have (per side) a black screwed-on bracket on the same pad that has the wear indicator wire .................... photo attached.

Any advice or info I need to know before I start the job?
500TA 2011.

Thanks guys,
Mick.

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Hi Mick,
the spring clip is designed to sit snugly inside the "tube" of the caliper's piston,

mounting of the caliper is probably as the video supplied by larslarsen,
hopefully you'll remember any differences compared to what you saw

PLEASE take some pics when you do yours , then one of us can construct a GUIDE for this common service job,

Charlie

OK guys, thanks muchly!

Yes, I'll take photographs and notes, and get back onto here with them.
We're off Up North for a wedding in a week or two's time, and I'd like to get the pads done by then. Maybe this week, and if this Wednesday is dry, it's the best day for me.

Cheers,
Mick.

Well .......... disappointment here.

Chilly, but dry, so I set to with a will. I saw the video and yes, my 500TA seems to be similar.

Trouble is, I need a 7mm(?) Allen Key to take off the front piece of the caliper. I have 8mm and 6mm. 8mm was too big, and 6mm too small.

I tried removing the whole calliper assembly as a complete item. It came off easily enough but it's impossible to get the pads out unless you split the calliper first ............. so all I could do was button it all up again.

I may be out later today and try to find an odd Allen Key. Maybe I'll have to buy a set, but 7mm may be illusive. I don't know, I've never needed a 7mm before.

I took a couple of photos anyway.

Regards,
Mick.

Job done!

I managed to buy a set of Allen Keys with a 7mm one in the set. These are good quality JCB tools and cost £19.94 for a full Imperial and Metric collection. Total of 25 keys.
http://www.diy.com/screwdrivers-key...-arm-ball-end-hex-key-set-of-25/594874_BQ.prd

I jacked up the RH side like before and immediately tried the 7mm key. As you can see from the photo, there's not much room for the top bolt as it's very close to the hydraulic hose. I hoped to buy a 7mm key that I could use with my socket set but B+Q didn't stock any with 7mm. The Allen Key worked well and having a long shaft it had plenty torque. Quality of the tool is excellent.

Any road up, both callipers came off easily enough, the pistons moved back easy too, and the new pads went in ........... though not very easily. The one with the spring clip was an absolute pig to engage, but eventually it went in.

Also the spring unit on the outside although comes off ok, it's a devil of a job to get back on. It was only by use of a large pair of pliers and a strong hand that I could do it. It also needed tapping home fully using a "persuading" hammer.

After doing the RH side, the LH side was easier because I was ready for it! However, the pad spring clip and the outer spring were still difficult.

Here's a collection of photos. All self evident. Sorry about the lack of good focus of the old pad, but suffice it to say it was down to just less than 4mm of pad left.

500TA has done 20650miles.

Regards,
Mick.