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Technical Jacking the 500 (again)

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Technical Jacking the 500 (again)

bgunn said:
If you're talking about the beam on the Panda/500, that is not a subframe, as it's a moving suspension component.. And you need to be careful where you jack on that - under the spring pan is best.
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It will also be referred to in the industry as the rear sub frame by some ;)

You are however correct about needing to jack it on load bearing points such as under where the springs sit.
 
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Most Easterly Pandas said:
Fiat must be wrong then in their descriptions, noted as rear subframe bushes etc when selling rear axle bushes.
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Nope, just lousy Italian translation. Since when has a part description actually necessarily pertained to the function of the part? There are plenty of ridiculously inanely named parts that have no relation to their 'name'. It's just what the warehouse manager called it :)
 
If the jack is rising and the car isn't, you're either on soft ground, or a soft part of the car.

If you get a puncture on a country road, keep off the verge, you can't jack it on the verge.

When working under a car, support it properly. Hydraulic jacks can let go, narrow scissor jacks and bottle jacks can fall over. Bricks and concrete blocks can split under pressure. Use proper stands or solid wood blocks (bits of old railway sleeper). Place removed wheels under the car if possible. They will support the car if it falls and its more difficult to trip over it.
 
sorry for resurrecting such an old post! I plan on changing my oil this month (a first for me) and obvs ill be having the whole car up on stands thus enabling me to clean my alloys at the same time! ive read where to jack up with my trolly jack but where do I place the axel stands on the rear end? front on sub frame obvs but the rear?
 
portland_bill said:
If the jack is rising and the car isn't, you're either on soft ground, or a soft part of the car.

If you get a puncture on a country road, keep off the verge, you can't jack it on the verge.

When working under a car, support it properly. Hydraulic jacks can let go, narrow scissor jacks and bottle jacks can fall over. Bricks and concrete blocks can split under pressure. Use proper stands or solid wood blocks (bits of old railway sleeper). Place removed wheels under the car if possible. They will support the car if it falls and its more difficult to trip over it.
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With wood block's ideally you want something with the grain with the car e.g the grain running horrizontally rather then vertical as that will greatly increase the likelihood of it splitting along it potentially make the car fall off
 
Baglady1990 said:
sorry for resurrecting such an old post! I plan on changing my oil this month (a first for me) and obvs ill be having the whole car up on stands thus enabling me to clean my alloys at the same time! ive read where to jack up with my trolly jack but where do I place the axel stands on the rear end? front on sub frame obvs but the rear?
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When I changed the rare shock on mine o place them at the front of the rear axle near where it mounts to the body work



That being said for a oil change you shouldn't need to jack the rear up the front only should be enough
Only need enough space to get under the front end
 
Baglady1990 said:
sorry for resurrecting such an old post! I plan on changing my oil this month (a first for me) and obvs ill be having the whole car up on stands thus enabling me to clean my alloys at the same time! ive read where to jack up with my trolly jack but where do I place the axel stands on the rear end? front on sub frame obvs but the rear?
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At the front, the trolley jack can lift under the rear subframe mountings, one side at a time, by putting the trolley in behind each wheel. Stand can then go under the front subframe mount, or just under the bottom suspension arm.

At the rear, get the trolley central under the axle beam, it then lifts the whole car. Stands can sit under each spring pan, or just ahead of them.
 
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