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I,m looking to replace my standard 15" rims that came with my 5oo 1.4 sport.
Installed on the car are eibach pro kit, and koni adjustable's, so the ride is firm.
I want to put 16" on the car for a little more contact patch, but the local shop said we can do 195 50 r 15 on the stock rim, and the result would be the same; true or false.
2nd question is regarding pcd values. The original rim is 4x98. I have found a beautifull momo revenge 16" but its 4x100! The shop said they have special adaptor lugs which would balance out the difference. Are these safe, and effective, or will i have problems down the road??
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I,m looking to replace my standard 15" rims that came with my 5oo 1.4 sport.
Installed on the car are eibach pro kit, and koni adjustable's, so the ride is firm.
I want to put 16" on the car for a little more contact patch, but the local shop said we can do 195 50 r 15 on the stock rim, and the result would be the same; true or false.
2nd question is regarding pcd values. The original rim is 4x98. I have found a beautifull momo revenge 16" but its 4x100! The shop said they have special adaptor lugs which would balance out the difference. Are these safe, and effective, or will i have problems down the road??
thank you!
andy
Best to stick with the right sized tyre for insurance purposes. It's easy to plug the figures into a 'reckoner' (there's one on one the threads on the FF) I would imagine that they're fairly close. IIRC that tyre size might be used on the Ka.
Wobble bolts will handle the PCD differences.
Offset is also important. Double check the handbook to see if its E35 (this is dependant on the J width)
Are these a set of wheels in Halfords ?
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Best to stick with the right sized tyre for insurance purposes. It's easy to plug the figures into a 'reckoner' (there's one on one the threads on the FF) I would imagine that they're fairly close. IIRC that tyre size might be used on the Ka.
Wobble bolts will handle the PCD differences.
Offset is also important. Double check the handbook to see if its E35 (this is dependant on the J width)
Are these a set of wheels in Halfords ?
The stock is E35 the momos are 16 x 7 4x100 E35
this is what the rim look like
http://www.momo-uk.co.uk/gallery/roa...mo-revenge.htm

Is it worth it though??
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The stock is E35 the momos are 16 x 7 4x100 E35
this is what the rim look like
http://www.momo-uk.co.uk/gallery/roa...mo-revenge.htm

Is it worth it though??
I haven't got my 500 anymore but if IIRC the handbook mentioned 6.5J width for the 16inch at E35 - hopefully someone will confirm if that is the case. With a 7J width it will affect the offset - unsure if it would still be E35 but it's probably OK.

If you are asking my opinion on the wheels I would not be mad on them. They look similar to the multispokes on the upgraded 17 inch for the A500 and they would not be my first choice. I prefer the esseesse looking wheels that were in Halfords with 'just' the 4 holes but I probably wouldn't fit them because of the insurance headaches. If I could source a set of original dealer supplied wheels that would be my preference.
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I haven't got my 500 anymore but if IIRC the handbook mentioned 6.5J width for the 16inch at E35 - hopefully someone will confirm if that is the case. With a 7J width it will affect the offset - unsure if it would still be E35 but it's probably OK.

If you are asking my opinion on the wheels I would not be mad on them. They look similar to the multispokes on the upgraded 17 inch for the A500 and they would not be my first choice. I prefer the esseesse looking wheels that were in Halfords with 'just' the 4 holes but I probably wouldn't fit them because of the insurance headaches. If I could source a set of original dealer supplied wheels that would be my preference.
My reasoning behind this is for a better contact patch ,and a better grip than the 185's the car currently has. As far as roadholding abilities should i go with the 16's (205 45 r16), or 15"s and a 195/50/15?
would these 2 sizes offer about the same grip, assuming were talking the same brand of tire.?
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Re: rims for 500

I have to say, those are lovely wheels. If you do fit some to your 500 please post photos!
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I would say the 185's are wide enough for a car of this side i never felt the 500 understeer much.
Those rims look really nice though.
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Re: rims for 500

I have been running Mrs Gs 1.4 sport on Abarth 17s for over a year and Abarth 16s on her previous 1.2.

I love the look of the 17s,but it just feels overtyred on the 17s with the 205s and the ride on Sheffields awful roads is pretty dreadful.

So next month it will be back on some Abarth 16s. I am popping the Abarth SS springs on with the Konis too so I am looking forward to trying this new combination. Overall I think the 16s are the probably the best all round compromise. We will soon see anyway

Oh and it will be having a new back box courtesy of Neil Surrey Labs.

One day I will get round to posting some pics.
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Are these safe, and effective, or will i have problems down the road??
Hope not, I'm running 14" wheels that are 4x100 with taper lugs ("wobble bolts") - so far, so good.
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My reasoning behind this is for a better contact patch ,and a better grip than the 185's the car currently has. As far as roadholding abilities should i go with the 16's (205 45 r16), or 15"s and a 195/50/15?
would these 2 sizes offer about the same grip, assuming were talking the same brand of tire.?
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Had a look at you 1.4 Black car and it looks very nice. Reminds me on the first 500 Sport with I had with the 16inch 5o-spokes which I was very fond of. IMHO it suited they suited the Black best in the 1.4 but they are more difficult to refurbish. The ones with the price tag were in Halfords (Euros).
To answer your question I would not go for the widths you are thinking off. If you are going to increase your footprint to 195 you might as well for 16 inch. If you opt for 205 then go for 17inch. 195 should be plenty. If you have to have the ride comfort and the footprint then the 195/50/15 on your Sport wheels would work well but you may be limited on the choice in performance tyres in that size.
http://www.alloywheels.com/Tyre_Calculator
https://www.fiatforum.com/500/166084-winter-tyres-people-going-98.html#post2906437
On the wheels you posted I would like to change my opinion and agree with the previous posters and they are were nice. I did a close up on them and with the angular style they're different.
Going back to wheel size that would be recommended in this if you opt for 7J - it would appear that E30 would be the correct offset.
https://www.fiatforum.com/500/277297...c-request.html

In your opening post you state that you have the Eibach pros and and Koni adjustables and the ride is firm. In the LAD Motorsport F500 they kept the 15 inch wheels for ride comfort. Article in this thread...
https://www.fiatforum.com/500/276204...ml#post2813780
https://www.fiatforum.com/500/199654...ml#post2766079

The recommendation from the previous poster IainG GPS to stick with 16s is probably a good one given his experience of the 17s & the 16s.
I found that with the 16s on the 2 previous 500s would hold the grip with the 1.4 nicely & particularly on the Conti 2s which I really likes. They were in the standard size of 16 x 195/45 with a rim of width of 6.5J and E35.

Given your Abarth aspirations I would be tempted to go for 'light' 17s despite the insurance 'headache' and the more expensive tyres. TMC Motorsport may still be doing a 'special price' of under a grand 'all in' using excellent summer mid range Yohos and the Prorace rim - picture is of one in black but they would have them in a 'titanium' look as well. Tyres size on this would be 17 x 205/40. Recommended offset is E30 on the 7J rim. This would have probably worked if you did not have the lowered suspension and had possibly opted for the 'standard' Sport springs and the Koni FSDs.

If you heart is set on those momos wheels don't let me stop you.

EDIT: You might have a problem with bore size in the 4x100 PCD....
https://www.fiatforum.com/500/287701...ml#post2912705
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if i was going aftermarket on the 500 it would be sppedline turinis for me all day long.



not a fan of going ott on wheel/tyre width as whilst you get more grip you get more roll, also i think the non A cars need a drop to carry aftermarket off

for me if the arch gap is greater than the side wall depth its not a good look (i find the 500 rear arch gap on mine offensive)
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I alternate between 15" in 195/50 and 16" in 195/45 and you can still push it wide into some understeer if you're determined.
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if i was going aftermarket on the 500 it would be sppedline turinis for me all day long.



not a fan of going ott on wheel/tyre width as whilst you get more grip you get more roll, also i think the non A cars need a drop to carry aftermarket off

for me if the arch gap is greater than the side wall depth its not a good look (i find the 500 rear arch gap on mine offensive)
Turini's are nice

I also like Speedline 2118's too.

We've got a set in gold on our Subaru and although they don't suit the car, I really like them and would happily get a set for the 500.
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