Ah that was you, I remember now! Thought it was a TA, could be similar problem though.
Technical Twin Air Plus engine cutting out
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Ah that was you, I remember now! Thought it was a TA, could be similar problem though.
Hi, we have just bought a 2012 twin air 9000 miles only, the car is like new but we also have the same problem, it just cuts out sometimes and stops 
very annoying but very dangerous as the last time it happened was when some one let us out in traffic we got into the middle of the road and it just stopped. I took it to Fiat and they found no problems and had never heard of this before, now I will be directing them to this forum. What would be very helpful is if the people on this forum who had had the problem fixed could let me know which garage they took it to as they would be more aware of the problem.
Thanks in advance for your response.
very annoying but very dangerous as the last time it happened was when some one let us out in traffic we got into the middle of the road and it just stopped. I took it to Fiat and they found no problems and had never heard of this before, now I will be directing them to this forum. What would be very helpful is if the people on this forum who had had the problem fixed could let me know which garage they took it to as they would be more aware of the problem.Thanks in advance for your response.
You are aware it has stop start technology? If it's in neutral with the clutch out & the perimeters are right, the engine will cut out.
Dip the clutch again & she'll fire up.
Dip the clutch again & she'll fire up.
Hi,
sounds an interesting ( frustrating!! ) fault.. so EXACTLY what happens = the ENGINE DIES..
BUT what else,
gauges dip.. lights dim..??
does it restart instantly - does the mileage TRIP reset..??
they will all help pin point WHY the engine shuts down !!,
re-dealer recommendations,
what part of the UK are you from?
Charlie - Oxford
sounds an interesting ( frustrating!! ) fault.. so EXACTLY what happens = the ENGINE DIES..
BUT what else,
gauges dip.. lights dim..??
does it restart instantly - does the mileage TRIP reset..??
they will all help pin point WHY the engine shuts down !!,
re-dealer recommendations,
what part of the UK are you from?
Charlie - Oxford
Hi
I am from Matlock in derbyshire and nothing on the dashbord really changes with the lights.
Well here is a example, From cold start in the morning drove to the shop approx 1.5 miles, after 10- 15 mins in the shop got back into the car and turned the start stop off and drove 20 yards to the junction, waiting at he junction 2 mins, a another car lets me out and i drive out but have to stop because the traffic lights are on red (this is why he let me out) as soon I stopped at the lights, the car engine cuts out,( I would say that it cut out just before I got to the lights) no warning lights come on it takes around 30 seconds to start the car again, I did notice that giving it lots of throttle when turning it over did help. I have also noticed on other times it can feel like it cuts out for a split second when setting off from junctions etc, we have seen the start stop not available message on the dash once when it cut out before.
I have a mechanical back ground and do know when somethings not right, so your help would be very much appreciated.
Thanks
Ian
PS. I have just booked it back in with Fiat as this is getting to be dangerous for my wife to drive.
I am from Matlock in derbyshire and nothing on the dashbord really changes with the lights.
Well here is a example, From cold start in the morning drove to the shop approx 1.5 miles, after 10- 15 mins in the shop got back into the car and turned the start stop off and drove 20 yards to the junction, waiting at he junction 2 mins, a another car lets me out and i drive out but have to stop because the traffic lights are on red (this is why he let me out) as soon I stopped at the lights, the car engine cuts out,( I would say that it cut out just before I got to the lights) no warning lights come on it takes around 30 seconds to start the car again, I did notice that giving it lots of throttle when turning it over did help. I have also noticed on other times it can feel like it cuts out for a split second when setting off from junctions etc, we have seen the start stop not available message on the dash once when it cut out before.
I have a mechanical back ground and do know when somethings not right, so your help would be very much appreciated.
Thanks
Ian
PS. I have just booked it back in with Fiat as this is getting to be dangerous for my wife to drive.
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Nothing much to add but we have an 18 month old Fiat Punto Twinair. The engine management light keeps coming on in amber. The engine cuts out for no apparent reason in varying circumstances - at low and high speeds. Periodically, the engine does not run smoothly. Car has just spent a whole day at GH in Milton Keynes and we were told that no fault detected. Quelle surprise, full repertoire of faults displayed within first ten miles following collection. Car booked in again next week. Dealer pretty uninspiring and unhelpful and blamed Fiat policies for not allowing them to run full diagnostic check.
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Thanks Bella for your post. I'm having the same trouble with my newly acquired Panda 4x4 Twin Air. Random cut out - always showing oil light indication when it happens. Have taken copy of your posts to my dealer who is baffled/detached about the problem - hopefully this will give them a lead. Their first approach was wrong oil in engine, but have copy of dealer internal invoice for pre-sale at only 5065 miles and correct Selena oil used - so that knocks that one on the head!!
Have 3 months to get this sorted before taking the car to Cyprus, so any lead is most gratefully received. Had Twin Air 500 before this Panda and had no problems at all. Faulty bunch of oil switches??
Have 3 months to get this sorted before taking the car to Cyprus, so any lead is most gratefully received. Had Twin Air 500 before this Panda and had no problems at all. Faulty bunch of oil switches??
my 2013 has been perfect
a guy who bought one at similar time had a lot of issues before having a replacement / trade deal from FIAT,
twinairturbo
if I recall correctly,
check his posts for ideas,
Charlie - Oxford
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I also had spark plugs, coil packs, oil pressure sensor, coolant temp sensor and an intake pipe, I had up to 12 incidents with the same symptoms your explaining
thanks for response,
how's it been since Xmas..? ,
don't recall hearing from you in a while..!!,
Charlie
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thanks for response,
how's it been since Xmas..? ,
don't recall hearing from you in a while..!!,
Charlie
Always happy to help if I can, and It's been great thanks l i'm getting 100HP out of it now lol just had it's first service but still not a daily driver with just 1800mi on the clock got a Paul walker tribute sticker on and thinking of getting her roof wrapped and wheels re-sprayed in a deep red, how's yours?
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have been having the same problem with my twinair plus engine cutting out suddenly, keeps doing it in dangerous places as well, such as when I've pulled out onto a roundabout or at traffic lights etc, I'm not stalling it, I am fully off the clutch and onto the accelerator, and once this done it when I was driving down a road in 3rd gear doing a perfect speed for it, and suddenly it felt as if it had violently stalled, sometimes it struggles to start again, sometimes the engine management light comes on, sometimes the engine oil light comes on, I have topped up the engine oil recently and it's still doing it, I thought it was just because the car was cold as it was happening within 5 mins of driving the car but recently it has been doing it after a long journey, I haven't had a chance to read all you posts but has anyone had a similar problem or know what the cause could be? I took it up to fiat dealership last weekend and they stuck it on the diagnostics but came up with nothing, all came back fine
Hi to everyone
We have a 2012 twin air with 12200 miles, and it's got the same problems as you all are having, cutting out !!!!( it's not staling or start stop or any driver error) Fiat have looked at it 3 times and always say, theres no fault showing, so theres nothing wrong with it. fiat UK have been no help at all and it's getting to the stage where without it completely breaking down theres not much that can be done, so Fiat are happy to let people drive there car with a dangerous fault, cutting out when joining traffic leaving you stranded in the middle of the road. iF any on here could help that would be great.
We have a 2012 twin air with 12200 miles, and it's got the same problems as you all are having, cutting out !!!!( it's not staling or start stop or any driver error) Fiat have looked at it 3 times and always say, theres no fault showing, so theres nothing wrong with it. fiat UK have been no help at all and it's getting to the stage where without it completely breaking down theres not much that can be done, so Fiat are happy to let people drive there car with a dangerous fault, cutting out when joining traffic leaving you stranded in the middle of the road. iF any on here could help that would be great.
ahmett
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Unfortunately that is the Fiat way. The only help you when the car breaks down completely and refuses to move, as with my gearbox = (.
105S
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My wife's car (105 TA) has just had it's first service (4.5K miles) I noticed in the last month or so when the engine was stone cold it would cut out and was a right sod to start up again (the cars always in 'sport' mode with the stop/start always switched off). Luckily it never happened to my missus because I don't think she would have got it started and on some occasions it happened in dangerous/embarrassing circumstances. When it went in for the service i told them about it and when we went to pick up the car they reckon the electrodes on both spark plugs were badly burn out. Being a consumable item? they charged for the plugs and fitting too. She tends to use super unleaded so they blamed the spark plug problem on that
Hi 105S
Thanks for the reply. I will have a look at plugs in ours, I have tried a changing a few of the sensors but no luck yet, last time it stopped I didn't think it was going to start up, tried to start it around 20 + times before I eventually did get it to start. I just wish it would breakdown and show the fault on the engine computer.
Thanks for the reply. I will have a look at plugs in ours, I have tried a changing a few of the sensors but no luck yet, last time it stopped I didn't think it was going to start up, tried to start it around 20 + times before I eventually did get it to start. I just wish it would breakdown and show the fault on the engine computer.
I'm sorry, but if they've told you that then it's my opinion they might just not have a clue what they're talking about. During the 18 month ownership of our TA which be bought new as a pre-reg with only 9 miles on the clock, we ran it exclusively on Shell V Power Nitro unleaded 99 octane with no ill effects. Over 13,500 miles, the car ran extremely smoothly. The engine didn't falter once, never missed a beat.
I would personally have asked to see the plugs they removed, but then you'd have been at the mercy of whether they were actually showing you the plugs they'd removed, essentially, you'd be taking their word for it and you're in no position as the customer to know otherwise. This was the main reason why I changed the plugs myself in our first 500, our old 1.2 POP. The dealership mentioned about changing them on a dealer service and I told them they didn't need to because I'd done it myself, even using genuine Fiat branded NGK plugs. I saved myself a small fortune doing that because the dealership charge for changing plugs was ridiculous. I cost me £16 doing it myself. Even if I'd changed the plugs in our old TA, it would only have cost me £20 at the time buying the plugs from a Fiat dealer off the 'bay.
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I totally agree with you about the super unleaded being fine mate. The service guy reckoned the engine is designed to only run on 95 RON and when I checked the handbook it does say 95 (unlike my Audi which says 95 RON minimum - and I always run that on 99). Filled the Fiat up again straight after the service with 99 (ignoring his advice) as the car really does run better on it.
On the plus side they have fixed the 'cutting out' issue and it idles smoother and runs better since they changed the plugs, unless it was some other issue that they didn't want to admit to. My wife bought the car brand new, less than 12 months ago and it's running noticeably better immediately after the service than it ever has. Feels almost like the way it should have run straight from the factory. I did ask if there had been any software updates applied during the service but he said there were none..... so who knows. But it is fixed at least I guess
