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I have recently purchased a new Fiat 500 Twin Air Lounge and am used to going to France a couple of time a years to purchase wine. With 2 adults up front and the rear seats folded down plus taking into account the boot space, what weight is safe enough to carry? A case of 6 bottles weigh 14lb. (1 stone)
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Mmm, I'd check the handbook for safe weights if I were you. Last Sunday, I bought a small chest freezer which fitted perfectly in our 500 sideways (seats down) with all the packaging on. I think it said that the freezer weighed 27 kilos on the packaging. However, if you consider that you can just about comfortably get two 15 stone people (I am 6 feet 2 inches and 15 stone by the way) sat on the back seat, you could probably carry a fair bit! Just remember, you might want to put extra air in the rear tyres to compensate for any additional weight, but again, check the handbook - you don't want to pop your rear shocks or get stopped by the boyz in blue for scraping the tarmac!
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You're not likely to overload the car. The weight details should be on a plate somewhere in the car. You're not going to pop your shocks or be scraping on the tarmac unless you have the whole rear of the car filled with wine.
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I have recently purchased a new Fiat 500 Twin Air Lounge and am used to going to France a couple of time a years to purchase wine. With 2 adults up front and the rear seats folded down plus taking into account the boot space, what weight is safe enough to carry? A case of 6 bottles weigh 14lb. (1 stone)
I went to France about 2 years ago with a mate in a newish 525D saloon with an M tech suspension and and we loaded the car up with wine. You could really feel the weight in the car.
On a trip down country where I purchased some blue bangor tiles carrying 80 of them was fine but on the last trip I greedily carried 100 - the car (Marea weekender) was never the same afterwards.
Looking at the 'carrying capacity' of the 500 as 440kgs (including the driver) - it isn't that much. I personally would be concerned on the effect of shortening the life of the rear shocks if you overloaded that car and travelled on a 'bumpy' road. Some the 'regular' Irish guys that I have seen travel over on the boats use trailers but they would generally travel as a 'threesome' and make a weekend of it.
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I went to France about 2 years ago with a mate in a newish 525D saloon with an M tech suspension and and we loaded the car up with wine. You could really feel the weight in the car.
On a trip down country where I purchased some blue bangor tiles carrying 80 of them was fine but on the last trip I greedily carried 100 - the car (Marea weekender) was never the same afterwards.
Looking at the 'carrying capacity' of the 500 as 440kgs (including the driver) - it isn't that much. I personally would be concerned on the effect of shortening the life of the rear shocks if you overloaded that car and travelled on a 'bumpy' road. Some the 'regular' Irish guys that I have seen travel over on the boats use trailers but they would generally travel as a 'threesome' and make a weekend of it.
Considering that the average person weighs 80 kg's or so, 280kg's of wine is quite a lot......
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Considering that the average person weighs 80 kg's or so, 280kg's of wine is quite a lot......
off topic : I didn't find the prices that cheap in france, unless you live near dover / ferry ports and get a cheap return ticket. Perhaps the OP does not buy the cheap stuff
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I don't drink at all so it doesn't bother me either way The last time I went I picked up a shedload of pastries though
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I don't drink at all so it doesn't bother me either way The last time I went I picked up a shedload of pastries though
No Greggs in Wales?
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I don't drink at all so it doesn't bother me either way The last time I went I picked up a shedload of pastries though
You know what its a great day out... I did have a moment in the vast Auchen Hypermarket in Dunkirk and felt one with the planet

btw isn't it a crime for an Aussi not to drink Fosters, arn't you letting your country down
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French stuff > British stuff. When it comes to pastries
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I love stocking up on french groceries to bring back
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Considering that the average person weighs 80 kg's or so, 280kg's of wine is quite a lot......

The difference is going from the UK to France and Ireland & France is our one is a 17 hour crossing and for 2 people would typically cost around 300 (240 + eat). To recover the cost of the trip involves a spend of around 1000 each so taking a 'decent' bottle (no point in buying cheap) with an average cost of say 10 = 100 bottles / 6 = 17 cases each. If one got 30 cases (will this fit ?) the weight is 234kg (bottle is 1.3kg). The average guy going to France to buy wine/beer would weight a bit more than 80kgs ! = at least 400kgs. Add on 2 overnight bags and the spare wheel = 440kgs = technical carrying capacity of the 500.
And I was wondering why my mate's 525D felt a bit low down.

P.S. The thread should probably be renamed 'How many bottles of wine can you carry safely in a 500'
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that is one gem of an answer
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btw isn't it a crime for an Aussi not to drink Fosters, arn't you letting your country down
That's why I got kicked out of Australia.
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The difference is going from the UK to France and Ireland & France is our one is a 17 hour crossing and for 2 people would typically cost around 300 (240 + eat). To recover the cost of the trip involves a spend of around 1000 each so taking a 'decent' bottle (no point in buying cheap) with an average cost of say 10 = 100 bottles / 6 = 17 cases each. If one got 30 cases (will this fit ?) the weight is 234kg (bottle is 1.3kg). The average guy going to France to buy wine/beer would weight a bit more than 80kgs ! = at least 400kgs. Add on 2 overnight bags and the spare wheel = 440kgs = technical carrying capacity of the 500.
And I was wondering why my mate's 525D felt a bit low down.

P.S. The thread should probably be renamed 'How many bottles of wine can you carry safely in a 500'
But this thread isn't necessarily about someone from the Emerald Isle going over, I would imagine most people who go over to bring cheap booze back, live in the south east of England and for them it's more worthwhile. It's a lot cheaper to drive from somewhere in Kent, do a daytrip and take a shedload of booze over. Not my sort of thing of course, but people seem to find it worthwhile.
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