Tuning Fiat 500 1.3 MJT 95HP tuning?
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Tuning Fiat 500 1.3 MJT 95HP tuning?
Draigflag87 has reported good results from a tmc box on his Abarth
They do a box for the 95 bhp diesel too
http://www.tmcmotorsport.com/
Draigflag87 has reported good results from a tmc box on his Abarth
They do a box for the 95 bhp diesel too
http://www.tmcmotorsport.com/
Thanks! I'll check it out.
Oh, 95 to 114 hp
Win!Does the TMC box control more than just fuel pressure on the diesel. A remap takes into account a lot more parameters.
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Thanks! I'll check it out.
Oh, 95 to 114 hp
What's is the 'basic' output of a multijet engine 'without the turbo' ?
If you think of the original multijet with 75bhp and now the newer one with 95bhp - what are the risks associated with further increasing it ?
As a driver of a 1.6 MJ with 120bhp the torque of the engine easily makes up for any lack of power at the top end. It does however have a dynamic mode setting which increases the boost.
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https://www.fiatforum.com/500/267541-new-1-2-pop-secondhand-1-2-sport-2.html?p=2740970
I get the impression that the turbo on the 75 & the 95 are the same and I would be 'nervous' about increasing the power. Having a switch to increase it to Dynamic mode is a much better setup which does not exist on the 500 ?
When I got my mito 1.6 MJ in June 2009 (Mr. Multispoke sourced for me) there was no 1.3 MJ available in the Emerald. Looking at a youtube video of a 1.3 MJ the dynamic mode 'switch' does exist on that model. I hope you don't mind me posting this on the 'new' Cinquecento forum. Notice the carbon fibre lookaike touches which are a standard fit on the mito. My car is alfa red. The red that is in the video is the one from the 8C and it was available for a very limited period at the launch of the mito but at some crazy extra price. Also I have the black leather (Lusso model) which are wearing extemely well with no sagging. And by the way, Mito drivers are wavers :wave: unlike the 500 drivers who don't wave back.
And by the way, Mito drivers are wavers :wave: unlike the 500 drivers who don't wave back.
'cause we're cool about it unlike mito drivers.
I assumed they were waving for help
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Given the gender bias of male in the mito compared with female drivers in the 500 I suppose a man waving in a girlie 500 can be a bit unnerving to say the least. According to my Michael if you wave in a 500 you are going to look pretty stupid
but for all you girls out there do :wave:.
Given the gender bias of male in the mito compared with female drivers in the 500 I suppose a man waving in a girlie 500 can be a bit unnerving to say the least. According to my Michael if you wave in a 500 you are going to look pretty stupid
Men... brush your teeth with Colgate White and just smile
Well, I see. I understand that the whole engine is stressed when tuning and if you use all of your new power. However, I don't think it's a big diff in the end anyhow. If you're not driving like a car thief and use the extra power when you need it. Or am I wrong?
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You could always PM TMC Motorsport. He has come on to the Abarth section to clarify the capability of the new 'plug in' chip. I'm aware of the 2 individuals (as previously mentioned by Maxi) who are very happy with the upgrade on their A500 (of which one of them runs an esseesse). I haven't 'seen' anyone else on the FF go for the upgrade - but you could try it out - they are a very reputable tuning company.
One benefit that was noticed on the chip tuning on the A500 was that is around 2-3mpg more economical if you weren't using the 'extra' power.
Did you find out what the output of the diesel engine in non aspirated form ?
Hi, and thanks.
I havn't looked for it. I been mailing with TMC and they seems to be serious. I'll buy a box when the warranty is gone
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Hi, and thanks.
I havn't looked for it. I been mailing with TMC and they seems to be serious. I'll buy a box when the warranty is gone
Darren was on about 2 weeks ago...
https://www.fiatforum.com/abarth-500/270377-brooklands-2.html?p=2765358
The 'chip setup' on the A500 can be done by a DIYer. The older setup involved 3 connections - the new one only has 2. Now, it could be a lot different with the Multijet.
Everyone with an A500 that has one fitted takes them off when it goes in for a service.
Yes! I read that. It's seemed very easy. Thanks mate!Darren was on about 2 weeks ago...
https://www.fiatforum.com/abarth-500/270377-brooklands-2.html?p=2765358
The 'chip setup' on the A500 can be done by a DIYer. The older setup involved 3 connections - the new one only has 2. Now, it could be a lot different with the Multijet.
Everyone with an A500 that has one fitted takes them off when it goes in for a service.
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I thought a little bit more about the chip upgrade on the MJ. On the one car that I chipped / boosted it went from 130bhp (8lbs) to 170bhp (15/16lbs) the weak point was the gearbox. I had an ‘manual’ inhibit button to restrict boost on 1st gear so that it wouldn’t ‘blow’. A gearbox can go before a clutch goes. It happened on my gearbox when my car when it was 'taken' without my permission
So going back to the gearbox on the MJ, I was trying to find out which gearbox was used on the TA and I found a listing for a C154
http://www.carzone.ie/new-cars/Fiat/500/0.9-TWINAIR-SPORT/800154820110101
this is probably a mistake and should probably read C514 – the same gearbox more or less on 75bhp Multijet I which is rated at 150nm judging by the gear ratios which are the same bar 1st gear & reverse.
For the 95bhp MJ II model it would appear that the C150 is used which is rated at 206nm since it churns out 200nm.
Now the A500 gearbox is not rated for esseesse output but still copes.
I reckon the weak point of the ‘upgrade’ on a MJ II may be more the gearbox and not the turbo.
I would be making assumptions but it may also explain why there have been delays on the release of a 105bhp TA. This 'appears' to be using the C514 and the max nm it can handle is 150nm (current 85bhp is @ 145nm). The stronger C150 is probably needed for the power increase.
So going back to the gearbox on the MJ, I was trying to find out which gearbox was used on the TA and I found a listing for a C154
http://www.carzone.ie/new-cars/Fiat/500/0.9-TWINAIR-SPORT/800154820110101
this is probably a mistake
and should probably read C514 – the same gearbox more or less on 75bhp Multijet I which is rated at 150nm judging by the gear ratios which are the same bar 1st gear & reverse.For the 95bhp MJ II model it would appear that the C150 is used which is rated at 206nm since it churns out 200nm.
Now the A500 gearbox is not rated for esseesse output but still copes.
I reckon the weak point of the ‘upgrade’ on a MJ II may be more the gearbox and not the turbo.
I would be making assumptions but it may also explain why there have been delays on the release of a 105bhp TA. This 'appears' to be using the C514 and the max nm it can handle is 150nm (current 85bhp is @ 145nm). The stronger C150 is probably needed for the power increase.
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Definitely. If anything the turbo would at worst become a bottleneck, restricting performance, rather than being a weak point and breaking like a gearbox or clutch.
I thought a little bit more about the chip upgrade on the MJ. On the one car that I chipped / boosted it went from 130bhp (8lbs) to 170bhp (15/16lbs) the weak point was the gearbox. I had an ‘manual’ inhibit button to restrict boost on 1st gear so that it wouldn’t ‘blow’. A gearbox can go before a clutch goes. It happened on my gearbox when my car when it was 'taken' without my permission
So going back to the gearbox on the MJ, I was trying to find out which gearbox was used on the TA and I found a listing for a C154
http://www.carzone.ie/new-cars/Fiat/500/0.9-TWINAIR-SPORT/800154820110101
this is probably a mistake
For the 95bhp MJ II model it would appear that the C150 is used which is rated at 206nm since it churns out 200nm.
Now the A500 gearbox is not rated for esseesse output but still copes.
I reckon the weak point of the ‘upgrade’ on a MJ II may be more the gearbox and not the turbo.
I would be making assumptions but it may also explain why there have been delays on the release of a 105bhp TA. This 'appears' to be using the C514 and the max nm it can handle is 150nm (current 85bhp is @ 145nm). The stronger C150 is probably needed for the power increase.
Thanks for your excellent researching!
The things I'm wondering about is if the gearbox is gonna be a problem. I mean, I just want to get some more power on the highway and the pressure on the gearbox is mostly when acc and changing gear 1->2->3?
