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Hey Guys, I've been on here for a few days now discussing the 1.2 POP I'm wanting to get in a couple of months, I keep looking at members photos and having a quick scan through the threads on here but the majority of owners are Lounge Owners or the Sport ones. I'm just wondering if there are any 1.2 POP owners? What is it like? Do you wish you'd gone for the lounge? Just general information?

For me I'll be going from a Peugeot 106 on a Y Plate so anything new will be luxury! And living in West Yorkshire I don't think I will be needing Air Con for most of the year. But just in general, any points on the POP?
 
I have a 1,2 pop and is very happy with it(y) Great little car:) Alltough, when they still sold the pop model in Norway it was including aircon, and I have specced it up with electric sunroof, crome kit, a-bar, crome on bonnet, crome mirrors, B&M, 16" multispoke on summerwheels and 15" multispoke on winterwheels. Also added tinted windows and rubber matts:p Love the car and drive aprox 20000km`s a year in it. It has now gone 50000km including two roundtrips Norway- Italy:cool:
 
Air con is possibly the most useful thing you can have in a car. It's great for demisting your windows in the winter.

The price difference is £1400 but it adds a lot of kit. First there's air con, blue&me, fixed glass roof (makes the interior feel more airy).

Personally if it were me buying, I'd wait longer and just save up a bigger deposit for the Lounge, you're going part way there with the leather steering wheel and blue&me, just wait a little longer and go the whole hog. You won't regret it.
 
lilrachiebaby89 said:
Hey Guys, I've been on here for a few days now discussing the 1.2 POP I'm wanting to get in a couple of months, I keep looking at members photos and having a quick scan through the threads on here but the majority of owners are Lounge Owners or the Sport ones. I'm just wondering if there are any 1.2 POP owners? What is it like? Do you wish you'd gone for the lounge? Just general information?

For me I'll be going from a Peugeot 106 on a Y Plate so anything new will be luxury! And living in West Yorkshire I don't think I will be needing Air Con for most of the year. But just in general, any points on the POP?
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This is going to be your first decent car and a new one at that. You're buying on Finance and your a 21 year old. Budget is tight. You also want to enjoy yourself. West Yorkshire seems to get the same kind of temperate weather as Dubin so although aircon is useful for de-misting - it's not really essential for your summer. You happy to go with steelies (that saves money) but if the package price on the B&me and the steering is anyway as good as Ireland at €300 - this is really worth going for. Volare blue seems to be the colour you're going for and the white ambiance will finish everything off nicely. Your extras are the colour and the B&me and you have the cheaper insurance of the POP. It will also be better on fuel than the 1.2 Lounge but I have no factual evidence to back that up. :)
 
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Forgot to mention alloys as well. I know obviously they're not the most important thing, but 500's do look nicer with some standard alloy wheels on.

The other thing to mention is that adding extras to a pop costs you money and adds little resale value to the car.
 
The way I saw it when I was buying mine was that I definitely wanted aircon, alloys and blue'n'me. I spec'd a pop up on the FIAT site and realised I was so close to the price of a lounge/sport (around £100 iirc) with all their extra kit above that that it'd be silly going for a pop in my case.

The fact that the lounge seats (at the time no pop seat option on the lounge!) made my eyes go "bleh" and the glass roof with its flat bottom reduced my headroom too much in the passenger seat made a sport the logical choice for me (and I love the sport seats ;) )

In defence of the pop, the running gear is obviously the same as the lounge/sport with the same engine so it's not an inferior product.

In your case, as you seem quite happy without aircon (I guess if you haven't had it etc...) and not fussed about alloys a pop could make sense. As always it's an individual preference thing.

I was in a similar-ish position with mine on scrappage and I know how easy it is to think "just another £100/200/500/1000 could get me this" but I figured "more breeds more"- sometimes I think the 1.2 is a bit slow but then I figure if I had gone for a 1.4 I'd want an Abarth and if I had bought an Abarth I'd want the Essesse kit etc.

Put another way, there are a fair few pop owners on here and I can't remember many threads of people bemoaning their choice of a pop.
 
multispoke said:
. It will also be better on fuel than the 1.2 Lounge but I have no factual evidence to back that up. :)
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I suspect you're right, and any savings will most likely be down to the tyres. I have both steelies & alloys so one of these days will do a bit of testing to see just how much of a difference it actually makes. And if the 13" wheels off the Panda will fit, I might try those too as they're proper ecotyres:).
 
jrkitching said:
I suspect you're right, and any savings will most likely be down to the tyres. I have both steelies & alloys so one of these days will do a bit of testing to see just how much of a difference it actually makes. And if the 13" wheels off the Panda will fit, I might try those too as they're proper ecotyres:).
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Your a gas man JR. Still I admire the quest for better mpg. Not too sure about the 13inch althought they might fit the 1.2 with the smaller discs. From the spare wheel 'discussion' (it got very heated - don't go there :)) a 15inch space saver wheel could fit on the front of an A500. Remember reading that the front discs on the 1.2 fit on the back of a 1.4. Anyone someone on the FF will know. Not too sure about the insurance guys with the 13s though.
 
Most importantly you may not be able to order a 1.2 pop in a few months. They are discontinuing them, I was told this by a dealer a month ago. I also thought that this was stated in the feb/march price list but cant find it now to confirm However the thought that they may discontinue them worried me how it would effect the second hand value. As already discussed I also felt that I was getting more for my money with the lounge. Both made me feel the car would hold it's value better and give me more for my own driving. Weigh up the cost of adding what you want to the lounge and then decide, that's what I did. Hope this helps.
 
Lyndsey7757 said:
Most importantly you may not be able to order a 1.2 pop in a few months. They are discontinuing them, I was told this by a dealer a month ago. I also thought that this was stated in the feb/march price list but cant find it now to confirm However the thought that they may discontinue them worried me how it would effect the second hand value. As already discussed I also felt that I was getting more for my money with the lounge. Both made me feel the car would hold it's value better and give me more for my own driving. Weigh up the cost of adding what you want to the lounge and then decide, that's what I did. Hope this helps.
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I doubt they'll be discontinuing the pop, it's a popular model unlike the sport which is certainly the least popular of the three specs.
 
jrkitching said:
I suspect you're right, and any savings will most likely be down to the tyres. I have both steelies & alloys so one of these days will do a bit of testing to see just how much of a difference it actually makes. And if the 13" wheels off the Panda will fit, I might try those too as they're proper ecotyres:).
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Tyres and wheels combine to have an effect. As I always say, I can carry a steelie + tyre in each hand fairly comfortably but a 16" alloy + tyre is a strain with 2 hands! I would say the difference between 14" steel wheels and 16" alloy wheels is anywhere from 5-10% so 14" steelies -15" alloys would probably only be a couple of percent up to a max of 5%.

The 13" wheels will fit as the discs are the same size on the 1.2 Panda and the 1.2 500 and the offset and PCD is identical.
 
Lyndsey7757 said:
Most importantly you may not be able to order a 1.2 pop in a few months. They are discontinuing them, I was told this by a dealer a month ago. I also thought that this was stated in the feb/march price list but cant find it now to confirm However the thought that they may discontinue them worried me how it would effect the second hand value. As already discussed I also felt that I was getting more for my money with the lounge. Both made me feel the car would hold it's value better and give me more for my own driving. Weigh up the cost of adding what you want to the lounge and then decide, that's what I did. Hope this helps.
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You spot on in what you are saying about the Lounge being way better value that the POP - I understand in the UK it's only £1,400. From the other thread about the 'Cream leather' £130 ? a month got mentioned - got the impression that the POP was only within her reach.
 
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