Hi, How often do people rotate their tyres?
I did mine at 20,000 km with the 1.4 500 (12,500 miles) and the difference of wear between the front and rear was huge! From now on I will do it every 10,000 km (6250 miles?).
Of course it depends on tyre wear depending on driving style and road conditions (80% of greek roads are a complete mess).
The leasing companies here supposedly have customers change their tires at 30,000 km regardless of the model of car. I think I will manage 40,000 km from the set.
While the tyres would in all probability still be easily above the legal limit at 40,000 km, the differences of a worn tread and a completely fresh one should not be underestimated, especially on useless low grip roads and in wet conditions!

ahmett said:

Hi, How often do people rotate their tyres?
I did mine at 20,000 km with the 1.4 500 (12,500 miles) and the difference of wear between the front and rear was huge! From now on I will do it every 10,000 km (6250 miles?).
Of course it depends on tyre wear depending on driving style and road conditions (80% of greek roads are a complete mess).
The leasing companies here supposedly have customers change their tires at 30,000 km regardless of the model of car. I think I will manage 40,000 km from the set.
While the tyres would in all probability still be easily above the legal limit at 40,000 km, the differences of a worn tread and a completely fresh one should not be underestimated, especially on useless low grip roads and in wet conditions!

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I have learn that it's better to change your tyres well before nearing the legal limit - it's cheaper that an insurance claim from rear ending someone or ending up in a ditch . The continental tyres that came 'standard' on my 16 inch are brillant - they would give anyone the right excuse to put a new set of rubbers on a car. You cann't put a price on grip, ride comfort and a bit of 'tyre wall protection' for the alloys. Personally I prefer to let the pair (presumbly it's the front) wear out not bothering with rotation and put a new set on when needed.

I have the conti's as well in the 15 inch version. I agree with you, unworn they are very grippy tires, and when it comes to replace them, i will most likely replace them with the same style contis again. Your way of changing the front completely does make good sense, but i think i will stick to rotating every 10,000 km 3-4 times overall depending on tire wear before fully replacing them as if you leave the back tires there forever, you will have older tires as opposed to 'fresher' rubber if you change all 4 more often.

I rotate twice a year. Once in November or so and the other time probably in March or April.

I've done 24k miles on both the winter and summer tyres with about 7k of those being on my winter tyres. The summer tyres still have a good 5-6mm on them so they'll be good for a while yet.

I was going to do my ones but my trolly jack seems to no be working.
I have done about 9000 miles.

If I have a proper spare wheel i.e. a real wheel that was the same of the 4 on the car - I would rotate and did rotate when the tyres were expensive. At around €85 a tyre now and with the risk of wearing out the lock key I'm not too sure if I would as diligent as some of you. But far juice to ye.

multispoke said:

If I have a proper spare wheel i.e. a real wheel that was the same of the 4 on the car - I would rotate and did rotate when the tyres were expensive. At around €85 a tyre now and with the risk of wearing out the lock key I'm not too sure if I would as diligent as some of you. But far juice to ye.

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Tbh i've never really seen the point of a 5 tyre rotation. Just means you've got 5 tyres to replace come tyre replacement time. Plus it's nice to know you've got a good spare if you need it.

306maxi said:

Tbh i've never really seen the point of a 5 tyre rotation. Just means you've got 5 tyres to replace come tyre replacement time. Plus it's nice to know you've got a good spare if you need it.

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True. But at least when the car is sold on you've had the benefit of that spare wheel .

Did my last ones at 4000 miles. They were shot by 8000 so replaced all 4 at once. Current ones aren't wearing down though, done 7000 miles and only used 1 MM, getting worried about myself now

Do you all use the std jack?

DraigFlag87 said:

Did my last ones at 4000 miles. They were shot by 8000 so replaced all 4 at once. Current ones aren't wearing down though, done 7000 miles and only used 1 MM, getting worried about myself now

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I reckon it was all that talk about not having fun .

i do use the std jack rui

RUI said:

Do you all use the std jack?

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yep i did

Cool I may get the jack out tomorrow and change my ones over.

enjoy!

Still not done it, I had to go and take some photos of someone last minute. But I will get it done at some point.

No rush, a few thousand miles wouldn't make a difference anyway

Came across a very interesting youtube video on the Panda forum and shows that you leave your BEST tyres on the back. Rotating your tyres so that the 'worn' front ones being put on the back makes your car unsafe. Personally if my front tyres are wearing down well ahead of the rears I would now place the rears on the front and put new ones on the back.

multispoke said:

Came across a very interesting youtube video on the Panda forum and shows that you leave your BEST tyres on the back. Rotating your tyres so that the 'worn' front ones being put on the back makes your car unsafe. Personally if my front tyres are wearing down well ahead of the rears I would now place the rears on the front and put new ones on the back.

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That is excellent advice - some tyre dealers (COSTCO certainly being one) will refuse to fit new tyres to the front wheels only & will rotate your partially worn rears to the front if you are just replacing two.

jrkitching said:

That is excellent advice - some tyre dealers (COSTCO certainly being one) will refuse to fit new tyres to the front wheels only & will rotate your partially worn rears to the front if you are just replacing two.

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The video multispoke saw was one I posted and it was this one



I definitely agree with the video up to a point. That said I don't keep the best tyres on the rear for one good reason. I rotate my tyres and I do this so that there is never a huge difference in the tread depth on the tyres so the car between the front and rear. Multispoke has taken the video out of context. Vicki is saying quite rightly that if you were to take a car which which has two new tyres and two tyres which are just legal and put the just legal ones on the rear then you risk losing the rear on a corner when there's a lot of water because there is a huge difference between the wet performance of the tyres from front to rear.

Having half a millimetre or even a couple of millimetres difference front to rear isn't going to cause a significant increase in risk, but having 6mm+ (the difference between still legal tyres and brand new ones) is a problem. Rotation is the best way to manage your tyres as you will get the chance to replace all four at the same time. It also means that your car is likely to have more balanced handling characteristics than someone who always has the best tyres on the front or rear.