General 500 TwinAir UK Pricing Announced

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General 500 TwinAir UK Pricing Announced

Seems a big increase for such a small engine, i'm guessing it took a long time to develop?

On the subject of economy, just seen an advert in a mag for a Fiesta ECO something or another, does 88 MPG! And only 98 G/C02 per KM! :eek: I'm guessing this tiny unit won't be able to achieve figures as high as these.
 
A very good point! A car the same size as the 500 yet several grand more expensive? And even the base model can reach £23k if you spec it out with every option! Fiat is selling the 500 at a price it knows people will pay for it.....and why not

Exactly, if you had somebody waiting to pay you £1000 for a TV that was worth £100, would you accept their offer? Yes. Fiat will charge whatever they think they can get away with. The price of the 695 Tributo for example, that's around (and over) £32,000 for a 500 with a few add on's! And i know several people with deposits on them! :eek:
 
With their sales tanking around Europe I can understand why Fiat are keen on charging a premium for the engine.
My understanding is that it is cheaper to manufacture than the existing range of engines (1.2 &1.4), so there is an incentive to replace them as soon as they can, although I suspect it's going to take a while to ramp up production of the engine and introduce it across the Fiat range.
It will be interesting to see if they charge a premium for the Twin Air Panda and lets not forget Ford are introducing a small 3 Cylinder engine next year and I'll be surprised if they go down the same pricing route as Fiat.
 
The 1.2 pop is the only car under £10,000 ... that is silly money.

I wonder how many of the people who bought 07/08/09 cars would buy them again at todays prices

I ordered mine a few weeks before they were officially on sale and paid about £12k for a 1.4 lounge with leather, O spoke 16"s and almost every option except parking sensors and climate control.

That's £13,835 today. That's not too bad an increase. Would I do it again? Quite possibly, yes. Looking at her in the driveway every morning makes me smile. And with what I'm paying now for insurance compared to what I was paying in my first year I'd probably work out slightly better off than my first year of ownership actually did back in 2008.
 
Never quite understood the 1.4 pop, if you had the money for the sporty engine in the range you were hardly not going to be able to afford a lounge or a sport.

Oh I do. I'm hoping the bottom falls out of the 1.4 pop market so I can pick one up cheap to turn into my idle dream supercharged track slag 500.

:D
 
I ordered mine a few weeks before they were officially on sale and paid about £12k for a 1.4 lounge with leather, O spoke 16"s and almost every option except parking sensors and climate control.

That's £13,835 today. That's not too bad an increase. Would I do it again? Quite possibly, yes. Looking at her in the driveway every morning makes me smile. And with what I'm paying now for insurance compared to what I was paying in my first year I'd probably work out slightly better off than my first year of ownership actually did back in 2008.

Good for you im willing to buy again (500) not sure which one yet but the money i saved with the 1.3 mjet was fantastic as an overall package compared to my picasso 2.0hdi( insurance,fuel and tax).:)
 
On the subject of economy, just seen an advert in a mag for a Fiesta ECO something or another, does 88 MPG! And only 98 G/C02 per KM! :eek: I'm guessing this tiny unit won't be able to achieve figures as high as these.

0.9 85bhp twinair is 69mpg, 95g/km according to the reviews.

What's the 1.3 Diesel, 72mpg combined right?
 
With their sales tanking around Europe I can understand why Fiat are keen on charging a premium for the engine.
My understanding is that it is cheaper to manufacture than the existing range of engines (1.2 &1.4), so there is an incentive to replace them as soon as they can, although I suspect it's going to take a while to ramp up production of the engine and introduce it across the Fiat range.
It will be interesting to see if they charge a premium for the Twin Air Panda and lets not forget Ford are introducing a small 3 Cylinder engine next year and I'll be surprised if they go down the same pricing route as Fiat.

Don't forget though that although the TwinAir might be cheaper to manufacture, Fiat will have to recoup all the development costs so it was never going to be offered at the price point of the 1.2.
Over time, they'll probably reduce the cost (though if they can get away with charging a premium they'd be stupid not to do so). It is more likely though that when the lower powered TwinAir comes out, it will replace the 1.2 assuming the public buy into the twin cylinder concept - there are customers who have avoided things like three cylinders so no doubt there will be the same sort of resistance from them to something else new.
 
Don't forget though that although the TwinAir might be cheaper to manufacture, Fiat will have to recoup all the development costs so it was never going to be offered at the price point of the 1.2.

Also if it was a similar price to the 1.2 then it would cause big problems. Who would want a 1.2 if they could get a more economical and more powerful engine for the same price? Nobody would buy a new 1.2, and the 2nd hand values of the 1.2 would fall so much that dealers would loose loads of money and existing owners would be very unhappy.

It had to be more than a few hundred extra really because buyers would save a few hunred pound in the first year or two on fuel and tax. With the price they've set for the 875cc the 1.2 is still worth looking at for many buyers.

If I buy a 875cc engine then I certainly hope that the price doesn't fall too much for a while.
 
Also doesn't the twin air have balancer shafts and a turbo?

Thats alot more complex than the boggo 1.2 which is slightly less complicated than a knife and fork..
 
When thinking about the list price, dont forget to look at the price of money... Looking at the finance calc on the fiat web site, I could get a 500 for less that 5% APR and a 500c for less that 2.5% APR. Compare that to Mini, where 10% was more typical (even more if not a cuurent offer). That can make a big difference to the total cost of ownership.
 
When thinking about the list price, dont forget to look at the price of money... Looking at the finance calc on the fiat web site, I could get a 500 for less that 5% APR and a 500c for less that 2.5% APR. Compare that to Mini, where 10% was more typical (even more if not a cuurent offer). That can make a big difference to the total cost of ownership.

I don't use finance, so that doesn't make any difference for me.

For me there is no competition between the 500 and Mini. The Mini is too big for me, and has a much bigger engine (especially compared to the TwinAir).
 
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