Lloyd71 said:

I went for a test drive in one at Research on Saturday, I want one!

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I saw you too, you wore glasses didn't you? You drove the Crossover black one with a lady rep while I drove the Funk white one with Ben, the resident Abarth specialist.

I was offered £7.5k for my 1.2 Sport against the red one in the showroom at £15,145. Mark ([email protected]) was offered £8.5k on his 1.4 Lounge by the same dealer which didn't amuse me much.

Exoticaholic said:

I was offered £7.5k for my 1.2 Sport against the red one in the showroom at £15,145. Mark ([email protected]) was offered £8.5k on his 1.4 Lounge by the same dealer which didn't amuse me much.

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Is that not to be expected though? New the difference between the 1.2 and 1.4 is £1400 so you'd expect a difference in price between to the part-ex's, however £1k seems a bit far apart.

I know this is off-topic, but I'm hoping to trade my 500 in for a 100hp, however you can get those for £7000 and I'd expect my car is worth more than that even as a trade-in... When I bought my Ka Ford took my old car as part-ex and gave me a cheque as the car I was buying was worth less than the car I was part-exing. I wonder if that's something the Fiat dealer would consider.

Anyway, it's good to see offers of £7500 to £8000 - it could be a whole lot worse. My 500 is on 10k and is a 1.2 Lounge to I guess should be worth around the same as Phoenix's.

I would say around 7.5k or a little less Suasexed. Doesnt seem to matter if its a 1.2 or 1.4 and the extras make virtually no difference to the price apart from aircon/climate.
However, be prepared for whoever has the 100HP for 7k to offer an extremely low part ex value as they will say the 100HP is so discounted.
Good luck!
TBH, Im pretty annoyed my Fiat dealer offered £7500 "as they want to keep me as a customer" but other dealers ALL offered more and I got £8100 in the end. Its a hard pill to swallow.

Abarth dealers are also being greedy with the APR on the finance they are offering

Alfa Finance (Fiat Finance) 9.9%,
Abarth Finance (Fiat Finance) 15 %, when pushed 12.7%

Exoticaholic said:

I saw you too, you wore glasses didn't you? You drove the Crossover black one with a lady rep while I drove the Funk white one with Ben, the resident Abarth specialist.

I was offered £7.5k for my 1.2 Sport against the red one in the showroom at £15,145. Mark ([email protected]) was offered £8.5k on his 1.4 Lounge by the same dealer which didn't amuse me much.

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Yup, that was me! The woman I went out with was Angela Davenport, she was the woman who sold me my 500 in the first place so we got on really well.

She didn't seem to like the stickers in my rear windows though, when she went to have a look round the car for a valuation on part exchange she tried to peel them off!

having read through this thread its pretty apparent why trade in prices are so low, Because everyone who test drives the abarth wants one! and fiat don't want lots of 2nd hand 1.2/1.4 500's to try and sell on. like Robw i'm going to hang-on maybe a year.

You cant fit a Dump valve onto it. The standard recirc is wired into the ecu and if the ecu picks up that the recic isnt doing anything then it puts the car into limp mode as it thinks something is damaged.

white 500 said:

having read through this thread its pretty apparent why trade in prices are so low, Because everyone who test drives the abarth wants one! and fiat don't want lots of 2nd hand 1.2/1.4 500's to try and sell on. like Robw i'm going to hang-on maybe a year.

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perhaps they should have launched all models at the same time, and people would have bought their ideal right car first time.

obvious this was going to happen and kill the residuals - difficult call

i have concluded that there will be plenty of Abarth 500s on the used market in a year/18 months

i recon i will be able to snap up an essesse kitted one for circa 10 grand in 18 months

punto_matt said:

You cant fit a Dump valve onto it. The standard recirc is wired into the ecu and if the ecu picks up that the recic isnt doing anything then it puts the car into limp mode as it thinks something is damaged.

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car has a dump valve - it must have, but a recirculating one
you are talkng about an atmospheric dump valve

only turbo diesels run without dump valves AFAIK

RobW said:

car has a dump valve - it must have, but a recirculating one
you are talkng about an atmospheric dump valve

only turbo diesels run without dump valves AFAIK

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Yes i know can you not pick that up from me refering to the car having a recirc as standard. Majority of people when dump valve is mentioned think of ones that go tshhhhh not recirc hence why i used the term dump valve.

punto_matt said:

You cant fit a Dump valve onto it. The standard recirc is wired into the ecu and if the ecu picks up that the recic isnt doing anything then it puts the car into limp mode as it thinks something is damaged.

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Agree. I think it would be a really stupid move to put a bov on it as all you'll do is make the car less responsive and causes it to make a chavvy whoosh noise.

RobW said:

perhaps they should have launched all models at the same time, and people would have bought their ideal right car first time.

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Great for the customer, not great for Fiat. Performance models are almost always released some time after the 'cooking' models are launched. If the Abarth had been launched straight away then all these people that bought the normal 500s would have gone for the Abarth instead. By launching the cars at seperate intervals it means for sales for Fiat.

RobW said:

i have concluded that there will be plenty of Abarth 500s on the used market in a year/18 monthsi recon i will be able to snap up an essesse kitted one for circa 10 grand in 18 months

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that's just what i was thinking .
cheep (less than £150) atmospheric dump valves sound like a bus door, the best one i have used is the hks ssqv which i had on the rx7 though its probably too big for the a500's engine bay

Could you not have the ECU re-mapped or chipped or whatever the balls they do to it to compensate for having a BOV? If you really wanted to join the Burberry clan?

white 500 said:

that's just what i was thinking .
cheep (less than £150) atmospheric dump valves sound like a bus door, the best one i have used is the hks ssqv which i had on the rx7 though its probably too big for the a500's engine bay

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Should fit. Someone is/was running one on a GP Tjet.

Lloyd71 said:

Could you not have the ECU re-mapped or chipped or whatever the balls they do to it to compensate for having a BOV? If you really wanted to join the Burberry clan?

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At least BOV's make it easier to see who is part of the Burberry clan and who is not

Suasexed said:

Great for the customer, not great for Fiat. Performance models are almost always released some time after the 'cooking' models are launched. If the Abarth had been launched straight away then all these people that bought the normal 500s would have gone for the Abarth instead. By launching the cars at seperate intervals it means for sales for Fiat.

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Exactly. The fact that 500 production was sold out for quite a while says it all really. I can't think of many car ranges where a brand new model comes out and they release a hot hatch variant at exactly the same time. The 205 GTi and 205 T16 are the only ones I can really remember.

So you can't fit a Dump Valve which goes tsshh? What fun is that how am i going to wind up all the little chavs now

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But isn't fitting a dump valve to wind up the chavs a bit chavvy in itself?

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But isn't fitting a dump valve to wind up the chavs a bit chavvy in itself?

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Ok one chav Civic Boy!!!!!! He tried chasing me again Sat night god i wish i had my car now

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