General City Button
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General City Button
I believe (I am yet to use it in a 500) that it is speed dependant so will return to normal steering above 30mph and be extra light at low speeds to aid parking etc.
It shouldnt do any harm leaving it on!
It shouldnt do any harm leaving it on!
City steering used to be a bit of an issue when left on on the old Puntos. Would cause the steering rack or something to fail prematurely. Howeve the pas unit has been revised for the 500. Using optical sensors instead of the old ones so leaving it now should not cause any issue what so ever.
Personnaly I'd leave it off until I needed to use it. That little light on the dash is using electricity making it harder to turn the alternator meaning fuel economy is suffering. Could be costing you upwards of 5p a year in fuel.
Personnaly I'd leave it off until I needed to use it. That little light on the dash is using electricity making it harder to turn the alternator meaning fuel economy is suffering. Could be costing you upwards of 5p a year in fuel.
Personnaly I'd leave it off until I needed to use it. That little light on the dash is using electricity making it harder to turn the alternator meaning fuel economy is suffering. Could be costing you upwards of 5p a year in fuel.
never used it myself thought it was as pointless as the sport button the stearing isnt heavy anyway even with 16" wheels, but i'm sure it does turn off at a set speed then turns back on when you slowdown ( although the light stays on )
Maybe not for you, but this feature of small Fiats was the reason we got my mum a Punto a few years ago. The steering in her Fiesta was too heavy for parking after she had an operation affecting her arm strength. That city button was essential for giving her some independence back.
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Yup, its a 'girly' button.
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fair point didn't think of it in that way
I use it quite a bit when parking. However, it was a total Godsend when I had a badly injured left index finger covered in a huge comedy bandage.
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Was that an injury picked up when seeing Mini drivers ?
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Yep, thats me getting my middle and index mixed up...
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Didnt want to start another thread on this topic but i have a similar question but it doesnt seem to have been clarified here.
1) My wifes 500 has the city steering button but from what i have seen it defaults to on ALL THE TIME. A bit like the S&S system.
2) It says City in the centre display all the time even when she is doing 30mph plus
3) It may be switching off automatically when she gets over a certain speed but the city indicator remains lit.
4) Is the button on the dashboard just an off button like the S&S button so she can just leave it on all the time and the car will take care of turning it on and off depending on speed.
Thanks for any help
1) My wifes 500 has the city steering button but from what i have seen it defaults to on ALL THE TIME. A bit like the S&S system.
2) It says City in the centre display all the time even when she is doing 30mph plus
3) It may be switching off automatically when she gets over a certain speed but the city indicator remains lit.
4) Is the button on the dashboard just an off button like the S&S button so she can just leave it on all the time and the car will take care of turning it on and off depending on speed.
Thanks for any help
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The city function will turn off automatically at 30+ then reengage as she slows down. To turn it off, press the button on the dash.
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Thanks robin
Old topic but I loved having CITY on at all times in my Punto - couldn't see any reason not to, didn't affect the steering accuracy or self-centering - just made it lighter (though you could feel it getting artificially heavy and 'dead' at about 70km/h - I reckon the transition should have been more gradual so that it couldn't be noticed. Then I knew someone who turned their CITY mode on just the once and the steering motor sensors immediately failed! :
:In the 500 I drove, the transition at 50km/h seemed to have become even more noticeable. I was disappointed to find the 'steering' button on a 1.2-engine 500 becomes a 'Sport' button on a 1.4, and with Sport off, the steering is not as light as it would be with City on. I kinda hoped they'd be equal and opposite!
I wonder if there is some way to arrange a button that activates the 'real' City mode regardless of having a 1.4. I guess the button could be added somewhere handy like... on the steering column.
My 156 has cruise control - I made the controller from LEGO Technic:
That's something else I would like on my 500, so maybe I need to get busy again
I doubt it will be as easy though, unless the engine ECU has the provision as it does on the 156. The USA models have cruise control from steering wheel buttons. I thought I read somewhere that the Blue&Me interfaces those buttons; therefore, the Blue&Me must be providing the cruise control signals to the engine ECU?-Alex
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Thread here on fitting cruise control to a European 500.
'Sport' button is a 'fitting' feature on the 1.4.
well! I'm speechless!
Thank you, that has changed my life as I wonder how on earth it works - for that steep price, it must be a little computer/CAN node in its own right, running a program in a PID control loop, it must pick up speed/brake signals from the CAN bus and send 'engine torque request' signals to the CAN bus... that would be highly dangerous if it didn't work properly!
I'm sure prices will come down, as such a device must be fairly universal for all CAN-equipped cars if the CAN messages are standardised.
The only other possibility is that it is interfaced with the engine management in the same way as my 156 cruise control - in which case, it would be a bunch of switches worth £10 - and there wouldn't be those two stored preset speeds unless the engine ECU includes that feature (which seems unlikely).
I bet it's nearly as fun with Dualogic as mine is with Selespeed; hit Resume at 40km/h and mine will accelerate in 2nd, change to 3rd, then 4th, then while still accelerating at 80km/h, impatiently it changes back down to 3rd again, then 4th, then 5th.
Many thanks again for the link.
See also http://www.carfi.co.uk/html/cruise_control.html?gclid=CI3Z2ti4vq8CFYYepAodOj8xww which I believe confirms it is a CAN node.
My guess is that the US version uses Blue&Me software to receive/send the CAN commands, operating in a multitasking way; cruise control could then be a free download for everyone else...? I won't hold my breath for FIAT to offer that!
-Alex
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'Sport' button is a 'fitting' feature on the 1.4.
My 1.2 has a sport button!
OK it is a 1.4 dash I have in my car..but sport looks better than the city button
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