General I.4 Sport Progress Report

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General I.4 Sport Progress Report

John R Smith

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Well, the little 500 1.4 Sport is loosening up quite nicely now, although I have only managed to put 600 miles on the clock so far. I have pretty much given up on trying to keep to a rev-limit for running-in – in typical Italian fashion, the car seems to only want to be driven one way - fast. So although I haven’t pushed it beyond 6,000 rpm yet, it has spent a fair bit of time snarling along between 5,000 and 5,500. In fact, the faster it goes, the better it feels. Road imperfections that spoil the ride at 30 mph just add to the fun at 80, the steering hardens up, and the 500 becomes a real driver’s machine. The brakes are certainly up to the job, too, which is just as well – the ventilated discs are sharp enough that I found myself braking much too early for the first couple of weeks.

There is only one downside to all this highway insanity. The fuel consumption never gets better than 40 mpg, and in fact has averaged just 37 mpg since I picked the car up. For the performance, I suppose this is pretty fair, but it is not quite the petrol-sipping eco-box that you might imagine. While we are on the subject of highway hooliganism, may I mention that uphill traffic-light starts are much more fun with the ASR switched OFF. A good dose of right foot then results in some gratifying tyre squeal in first and second gears (what me, Officer, good Lord no, as you can see I’m old enough for a bus-pass, must have been that hooly behind me in the Fiesta ST . . . .)

So this is all good stuff and well worth the dosh. All the bits that matter seem to work well - engine, brakes, steering, suspension, excellent Michelin tyres are fitted, wipers wipe, seats are good, mirrors are first-rate. If you crawl about underneath everything is well-built and tidily put together. Don’t ask me about the radio, CD player, Bluetooth or any of that nonsense, I have never switched them on. Stand back and it looks great, Italian no question, traditional (rather than retro), but as up to the minute as you like. It still reminds me of my Italian motorcycles, not least for the way in which it leaves me feeling slightly breathless at the end of a fast drive.

Still, we have to remind ourselves that even the 1.4 16v 500 is not really fast, just a tepid hatch by today’s standards. For something tarmac-melting we shall have to wait for the Abarth. Having said that, it is surprising how few cars have challenged the bambino over the past four weeks – mostly the red whizzer has been in the outside lane, leaving others consumed by envy and hopelessly caught in the wrong gear, despite their very often superior ccs. The 500 has so far confirmed my belief that it is much more fun to drive a car (or bike) which has enough power, but not too much. One which you can drive to the limit often enough to have fun, without endangering your life or your licence.

John
 
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Excellent write up John, thanks for posting this! I'm currently looking at getting a 1.4 sport so this makes good reading.

I'm surprised about the mileage for such a small car, mind you, 37mpg is double what I get just now :D

Are there many squeaks and rattles, especially on motorway driving?

Cheers,

Neil.
 
Hey John

Excellent report, I have now done just over 1300 miles now and am finding the driving so much fun, that 1.4 is just an amazing wee engine. I actually think it is loosening up nicely and I have thrashed it a wee bit recently and it really responds well. It is indeed very quick and because it handles like a go kart it takes the bends and roundabouts at quite a lick.

My fuel consumption is sitting at 41 average at the moment, which is decent given that I am not driving it like a granny. I too have had a bit of fun away from the lights. Watching all the saxo's and corsa's wondering what is going on and a few other quicker cars too.

Not that I advocate this kind of behaviour you understand. :D
 
No, no, of course not, this kind of anti-social behaviour was you understand purely theoretical and not at all the kind of thing which we should be advocating on a public forum :)

I don't seem to have any squeaks or rattles on mine, but then it is a brand-new car. No wind noise worth talking about at 85 - 90 mph either. In fact, I am at a bit of a loss to explain the rather luke-warm write-ups in the road tests so far. It all rather depends on comparison with other current cars, I suppose, and I must admit I have never driven the BMW Mini, for example, but it would seem to me that the 500 is not at all like other cars and has its own very distinctive character. To my mind, this is A Good Thing, not something to whinge about. I haven't owned many modern cars, but I have hired and driven quite a few, and most of them are totally interchangeable and equally faceless in my view. The little Fiat takes us back to the days when you could never confuse an MGB with a TR4, and differences ran deep. To build in real character and distinctiveness, and still comply with all the present-day safety regs takes some doing. All credit to Fiat for doing so.

John
 
Hmmm.

Something I forgot to do - treat you all to a picture of the red bambino. Here the little 500 is posed down at Place slipway, near St Anthony. Nothing special about it, I'm afraid - just a standard Sport in the Pasadoble red.

John
 

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Hmmm.

Something I forgot to do - treat you all to a picture of the red bambino. Here the little 500 is posed down at Place slipway, near St Anthony. Nothing special about it, I'm afraid - just a standard Sport in the Pasadoble red.

John

John,

nice to finally see a WK reg number on here:p. Glad your getting on well with your new bambino....still keeping my eye's peeled just incase I do actually pass you whilst out n about around cornwall.

Still to date only seen one 500 that was'nt a demo unit and that was a black lounge on the St austell bypass.

Cheers

Yoshi

Ps great reports...Carry on keeping us informed (y) I'll be interested on your views of Vospers come 1st service time.
 
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Yoshi

I have so far seen only one 500 on the road down here which was not a demonstrator, and that was yesterday – a green one following me through Truro on the way home. I expect there will be dozens around in a few months, but mine must have been one of the first on the road in Cornwall on March the 10th.

I suppose that I have so far omitted to list the things about the 500 which I do not like. So to be fair, and keep my reports objective, let me just mention –

  • The lever which alters the driver’s seat height is cheap and nasty.
  • Bonnet release ditto.
  • The handbrake is not a lot better.
  • The interior plastics generally are hard and will scratch up too easily in time.
  • Filling the screen-wash bottle is stupidly fiddly and requires a funnel.
  • Rearward visibility is poor and is yet another example of the triumph of style over substance. I know that most recent small hatches are exactly the same, but down here in Cornwall, with hundreds of miles of single-track road (where you have to reverse every few minutes on a bad day), this lack of rear vision is a curse.
Still, this is quite a short list. And to be fair, several of the above are examples of cost-cutting by Fiat in an attempt to keep the base model competitive, which in many respects is a praiseworthy aim. The problem being that features which are acceptable enough on the £7905 Pop get carried over onto the £11,000 Sport and Lounge, where they seem rather out of place.

John
 
I agree that the screenwash funnel is silly, but this is typical Fiat sadly, and the company may one day notice the complaints. As for the plastics: do we really need luxurious seat adjuster leavers and bonnet releases? I don't think so, and the seats and dash detailing are so smart that they more than compensate, I reckon.
I agree about the rear visibility, but the days of thin pillars are sadly over, as you say. For the time being at least...

When I drove one of the first Minis I was completely underwhelmed, finding it too low, rough, and somewhat clumsy, with a horribly contrived interior that annoyed me with its fussiness almost immediately. I have never seen what all the fuss was about; and I never was able to get into the back of the thing such were the contortions required of me. Not good design in fact, but a Grade One fashion accessory, hence the success.
I think the 500 has a lot of the fashion thing, but is actually a more honest and better car.
I like the 1.4 a lot. My anxieties hinge on the larger steering lock that it has, and the higher tax band.
Owners seem convinced though.
 
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I agree that the screenwash funnel is silly, but this is typical Fiat sadly, and the company may one day notice the complaints. As for the plastics: do we really need luxurious seat adjuster leavers and bonnet releases? I don't think so, and the seats and dash detailing are so smart that they more than compensate, I reckon.
I agree about the rear visibility, but the days of thin pillars are sadly over, as you say. For the time being at least...

When I drove one of the first Minis I was completely underwhelmed, finding it too low, rough, and somewhat clumsy, with a horribly contrived interior that annoyed me with its fussiness almost immediately. I have never seen what all the fuss was about; and I never was able to get into the back of the thing such were the contortions required of me. Not good design in fact, but a Grade One fashion accessory, hence the success.
I thing the 500 has a lot of the fashion thing, but is actually a more honest and better car.
I like the 1.4 a lot. My anxieties hinge on the larger steering lock that it has, and the higher tax band.
Owners seem convinced though.

Seconded! Great opinion!:yeahthat:
 
Great report John. We've had our 1.4 Sport a week and a day, and so far can't fault it, except for the rearward visibility. The turning circle too is greater than my previous Megane's, as it turns out. (I narrowly missed scraping its nose on a stone wall). Loving every minute of it too, and all the attention it gets.

I've now seen 3 other 500s in 2 days.: a yellow Sport in Brighouse last night, pulled up along side us on the dual carriageway, a chazure lounge in Bradford City Centre about 15.20pm and a white lounge in Heckmondwike about 16.30 today.
 
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