I was wondering if anyone knows how 'inclusive' the prices are on fiats website for colour coded items like spoiler, side skirts etc?

For the price do things come painted or is everything extra like the paint and the fitting?

Thanks

I believe with dealer fit options the dealer sets the price. The parts come painted in primer and so have to be sprayed and fitted all at your cost.

I've ordered a Lounge and I'm getting a rear spoiler. As an example, my dealer has charged me £289 for supply, spray and fit. I thought there was quite a big difference between the £100.99 quoted on the Fiat website for the spoiler and the dealer's quote but apparently these are the bodyshop prices for my dealership.

I think it will ultimately depend on your dealer but if anyone else has been given any prices you might get an idea of the average.

Socrates said:

I've ordered a Lounge and I'm getting a rear spoiler. As an example, my dealer has charged me £289 for supply, spray and fit. I thought there was quite a big difference between the £100.99 quoted on the Fiat website for the spoiler and the dealer's quote but apparently these are the bodyshop prices for my dealership.

I think it will ultimately depend on your dealer but if anyone else has been given any prices you might get an idea of the average.

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I am in the same situation apart from I now have my 500 lounge.

I went to the dealer expecting that the price would be that on fiat.co.uk + a fitting charge but when I was told it was going to be £100 for spoiler then another £150+ for fitting etc, I've had to give it a miss for now! I do wan't one but not at nearly £300!

It works out more expensive than a lot of the factory fitted options available on the 500.

Never mind.

Maybe the people from the nuova500shop.com could post how much they charge for their £65 spoiler to be sprayed / fitted.

Socrates said:

I've ordered a Lounge and I'm getting a rear spoiler. As an example, my dealer has charged me £289 for supply, spray and fit. I thought there was quite a big difference between the £100.99 quoted on the Fiat website for the spoiler and the dealer's quote but apparently these are the bodyshop prices for my dealership.

I think it will ultimately depend on your dealer but if anyone else has been given any prices you might get an idea of the average.

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Why would you want to spoil your beautifully designed drag coefficient with a...well..'SPOILer'??? You will seriously reduce your mpg. Its like a constantly applied airbrake! And totally useless considering it's such an underpowered car... leave the air to slip over the 500 with ease...why pay so much for a cosmetic improvement which will keep you paying for it once it's all fitted etc?

Simostone didn't charge me anything for fitting of the Italian badges or A-bar

Mark Elvin said:

Simostone didn't charge me anything for fitting of the Italian badges or A-bar

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They don't need painting though.

Cheers

D

rallycinq said:

They don't need painting though.

Cheers

D

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But they still needed fitting, apparently the A-bar took almost 3 hrs to fit.

Baerius said:

Why would you want to spoil your beautifully designed drag coefficient with a...well..'SPOILer'??? You will seriously reduce your mpg. Its like a constantly applied airbrake! And totally useless considering it's such an underpowered car... leave the air to slip over the 500 with ease...why pay so much for a cosmetic improvement which will keep you paying for it once it's all fitted etc?

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sorry but may not be true, im not sure?
i copied this image from magazine article. check it out.

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But they still needed fitting, apparently the A-bar took almost 3 hrs to fit.

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I've seen the instructions for fitting the A bar. Of the three hours, 2.9 of them was spent watch the glue go off.

Its as simple as, panel wipe the front panel, mark position, apply glue, stick, apply masking tape to hold in position until glue goes off, remove most of masking tape.

Cheers

D

Baerius said:

Why would you want to spoil your beautifully designed drag coefficient with a...well..'SPOILer'??? You will seriously reduce your mpg. Its like a constantly applied airbrake! And totally useless considering it's such an underpowered car... leave the air to slip over the 500 with ease...why pay so much for a cosmetic improvement which will keep you paying for it once it's all fitted etc?

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XIIX said:

sorry but may not be true, im not sure?
i copied this image from magazine article. check it out.

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I am paying for the improvement primarily for cosmetic reasons by "speccing up" a Lounge so I could have the interior I wanted - on my "underpowered" 1.2 it probably will be useless.

I don't know a lot about car design but I am sure that in designing the 500 a great deal of work went into the spoiler since the Sport models are each built with a spoiler as standard. It would make no sense to have the car perform less efficiently with a spoiler than without - why do a Sport version with a giant airbrake?

I'm inclined to believe the article but the result might be different if a non-Fiat designed spoiler were added instead.

Thats interesting. The spoiler must better manage the air off the rear of the vehicle, keeping the flow laminar further down the rear windscreen, thus improving the drag coefficient.

I may therefore consider a retrofit spoiler at some point.

There are different kinds of spoilers, which do different things. Some are there to create downforce. Others are there to tidily detach the airflow from the car and reduce turbulence. The Fiat 500 one falls into the latter category, and is there in perfunctory form on the Pop and the Lounge, but beefed up a bit on the Sport. Whether the Sport one works better, or is simply cosmetic, is a matter for conjecture in the absence of wind-tunnel figures.

John

John, so the spolier found on the Pop is there to aid the lowering of 'Cd' to 0.32.

My inital thoughts were 0.4 was a bit high for a modern car.

Does anyone know the accurate figure for the effective frontal area of a 500?

I used to work in the wind tunnel of an F1 team, & I have to say I can't see any way the spoiler can have such a large effect on drag.

Yes, Mark, the difference between a cd of 0.4 and 0.32 is pretty massive - you would think that it would take more than a tiddy spoiler to achieve that.

Purley guessing here, but perhaps the cd without the spoiler should be .34 & with it should be 032, otherwise we are looking at a 20% drag reduction, just by adding a spoiler!!!!

Otherwise there would be a fairly large increase in drag without & the sport models therefore would be noticably more economical.