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Old 03-02-2008   #16
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Re: New prospective 500 owner

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The 500 clearly does not handle like a Y10 or an original Mini for that matter. Nothing said calls into question my statement. Anybody looking for sporting handling from the 500 is going to be disappointed and if that is high on your priority list, look elsewhere.
or wait until the abarth version is released .
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Re: New prospective 500 owner

I'm not expecting the 500 to handle like a Caterham, it won't. What I want to know is what it handles like compared to similar sized cars on the market. I've driven a clio which I reckon is a fun little car to drive which handles pretty well for the size of car. I won't buy a car purely on looks, I want to assess how the whole package compares to other cars in the same sector.

I only need a small car to get me to and from the station, if I want to go for a spirited drive at the weekend I'll take the Caterham.

The point I was making was that I won't order a car without driving it just to reduce the wait time by a couple of weeks.
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The 500 clearly does not handle like a Y10 or an original Mini for that matter. Nothing said calls into question my statement. Anybody looking for sporting handling from the 500 is going to be disappointed and if that is high on your priority list, look elsewhere.
That's you opinion, most of the car mags said a Y10 didn't handle - I'd beg to differ as I would with the 5oo.

Have you got your 5oo? If so, which one is it and how many miles have you done. If not how can you comment?

I would be supprised if the 5oo didn't handle and from my test drive in a Lounge I'd say that there will be some fun to be had in my Sport.
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Simon, as you say the only true way to ensure it satisfies your " Fun to drive" criteria is to try the car. If you were to believe what most sporting drivers say the handling of the 500 is not as good as the Clio/Corsa/Mini/Mazda2 therefore it may fall short of what you are looking for.
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Ensonricky you just don't want Simon to get one do you
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Ensonricky you just don't want Simon to get one do you
The're only for old men like me, students and women.
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The're only for old men like me, and women.
Well I'm an old man but I don't drive like one
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Re: New prospective 500 owner

How old do I need to be?

I expect that someone over the next 18 months will attempt a motorbike engine conversion in one of these........now that could be interesting.

They have done it in the smart, the old mini and I believe in the old 500.

My wife has pretty much set her mind on a 500 so I may not have that much say at the end of the day.
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I drive an 8 year old Renault Clio 1.2 Grande owned since new and have done 14,500 miles. And yes I do drive like the old man I am.
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Well, it is fun to drive... in a modern sort of way. A Cinq sporting will still run rings around a 500, but thats modern cars for you, they just aint as much fun as they used to be. But, compared to other newbies the 500 is a hoot... after the test drive I had I got back in my old Panda and thought, shame they dont give them this sort of character anymore, but thats progress.
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Absolutey, the 500 is a hoot! That's the perfect way to describe it. Yes there's not a lot of steering feel, the ride is a kinda crashy here and there and there's a fair bit of body roll. But it's very precise and sharp. You may feel like you're going to roll all the way off the road but it won't, it adds to its character and fun factor.

I agree with what ensonricky is saying, it's not a great drivers car for many of the points listed above, however it's the whole fun factor involved. I've driven a Grande Punto and prefer the 500. I found the steering in the GP far too light and generally felt disconnected. Although the 500 doesn't give a huge amount back to the driver in feel, it just feels right
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I agree, I drove a GP when they first came out and the salesman had to wake me up, a mates got a GP 1.9 sporting and I hate it... the 500s smiles better! Tried another dealer today, to see if they had a 1.2, got ignored totally so walked out after 10 minutes!
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Glad I'm not the only one to be ignored in a showroom!! was starting to get a complex
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Glad I'm not the only one to be ignored in a showroom!! was starting to get a complex



You see one thread people complaining because salesmen "pounce" on them when they enter a showroom, then you see another thread and people are complaning because they are "ignored".
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I know what you mean as I have been pounced on the minute you walk thru the door, but there is a happy medium!! Just having someone come over say hello or at least acknowledge that you are there is far better than totally being ignored!
I manage a shop where we have been asked just to say 'hello' to people and leave it at that! we did feel it was a waste of time but must say that I have noticed that if a customer actually wants further help,advice etc they do go to the person that said hello to them as the ice has already been broken with the 'hello' but they dont feel as tho they are being 'pounced' on!!
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